You Might Fail to Jailbreak New iPhone

[frass2000]

sum ppl jailbreak for the extra apps unless apple goin open the market on their app store cause think it in their tos that if an app already exist that provides the same service then u cant offer that app in their store hence cydia

[Dreadnutz]

You are misinformed.

Read up on reverse engineering and cryptography.
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I agree with you, I get so tired off people saying that Man can crack into anything another man has made, it shows a complete ignorance of what is at work!

BTW Reverse Engineering is now also almost a thing of the past, they now sandwhich the chip waffers between materials that are so difficult to remove that you cannot do so without destroying the waffer. For the layman think about it this way, with the new Directv and Dishnetwork cards it's like putting a chicken egg inside a hollow egg shaped 1/2 inch steel safe, you just can't get inside the safe without destroying the egg inside, and thats a $10 USD security cards, the real good stuff that cost thousands of dollars can be dropped into the hands of the best russian or chinese scientists and they would never be able to do anything with them, that's why all those UAV's flying over middle east are not a worry when they get shot down, nobody can ever pull out the encryption codes or the spread spectrum operating frequencies.

[Gillion]

The UAVS are a dream... the chinese are in a fit over them.

[NOKIA 3650]

hardware encryptions cannot be exposed for software dumping once the encryption engine is inside the CPU or firmware bootrom device

However, I'm sure in 'some cases' once you understand how the encryption method works, then you can use other hardware methods for spoofing encryption (such as inserting a TurboSIM in any version of the iPhone).

[Gillion]

However, I'm sure in 'some cases' once you understand how the encryption method works, then you can use other hardware methods for spoofing encryption (such as inserting a TurboSIM in any version of the iPhone).

Turbo sim works only because apple messed up.

I rememebr when copy protected music CD's just came on the market... (when some of you guys were still in day care center) and a guy found out how to by pass it by

1. Using a marker to draw a black ring around the first bit of the CD surface. The system was royally embarassed.

2. Another guy pressed the shift key when you inserted the CD. He was taken to court and the case was dropped because MS had made "shift key feature" a part of Windows 95 by default.

So the case didn't hold because the guy did nothing that constituted "hacking/cracking/breaking the DMCA"

People laughed the lawyers out of court.

I also remember how easy it was to crack the first generation PSP... and the First gen DVD players and discs

ALL BECAUSE OF CORPORATE GOOFS

sometimes backdoors are left in because MANAGERS want a easy way to get into the system and don't want to have to "know anything about the damn security because it gets in their way and they are too busy"

So they create special battery jumpers... like for a certain cellphone where all you do is put a foil paper across two terminals and voila... ALL systems exposed.

GOOFS BY MANAGEMENT

[hondaz]

unlocking will always be possible. people may not unlock the system, but all systems are contolled by people, and it is way easier to compromise people that the system, thus once there is a will, there will be a way

[Gillion]

unlocking will always be possible. people may not unlock the system, but all systems are contolled by people, and it is way easier to compromise people that the system, thus once there is a will, there will be a way

Thats what you call social engineering.

An employee from apple may choose to sell crucial information vital to the encryption hardware or software... but the thing is apple employees are hardly ever traitors if at all.

They are apparently very well paid and very happy and insanely loyal to the man called Steve Jobs.

So good luck trying to coerce an apple engineer to sell you secrets. The chinese have not had any luck so far.

[hondaz]

your most loyal employee will turn on you after one firing... ask Bill Clarke.

everybody has there price. Not necessarily money. Because a lot of info is proprietary, it may not be commercially released by a competitor.


Most major hacking is done thru social engineering, because this is pretty much the cheapest and easiest way.

Thus every system will always be hackable. Also never swear for any employee, because all it takes is the right inducements or just plain greed.

[Dreadnutz]

unlocking will always be possible. people may not unlock the system, but all systems are contolled by people, and it is way easier to compromise people that the system, thus once there is a will, there will be a way

No it isnt always possible, there are thousands of systems out there running that will never be hacked or cracked.

You get around the "People" issue by out sourcing all the smaller pieces to of a large project to different companies, only a handfull of people know how the whole thing works, and those are the kind of people that will never talk.

Look I can qoute you two items right now that have had millions of dollars thrown at them being cracked, they have tried to buy off "Succesfully" people on the inside and yet they still cannot do anything about the system.

Directv and Dishnetworks access cards, and you can add to that the newer SIM chips.

You do know that each of these cards cost less than $10 USD to make yet people have spent millions of USD dollars trying to crack them, so I ask you what kind of security do you think you can get for $1000 or $1,000,000

The only reason that Iphones will always be able to be opened is because they are designed to be opened to be reprogrammed for different carrier's in other countries, other than AT&T, so there is very little Apple can do about that. If the Iphone had been an exclusive AT&T phone then the story would have been completely different.

[sdinesh]

My friends as of today solutions is already exist to unlock 3.1.2 through blackra1n.

Br.