bredren of mine in canada just came back from gamestop, where he went to trade in some old games. they were having a special where if u trade in 3 games you get to pre-order any upcoming game for half off..
so he gave in the 3 and while thinking about a game to preorder, the gamestop rep told him that gt5 comes out december 1st...so my bredren ended up preording that..
ill keep this updated as to the progress of that.