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    Default Geology Rant - Weather-Forming

    First take with a grain of salt, I am an idiot relative to real scientist like Einstein.

    This is a mental simulation and hypothesis. Thoughts are NOT proven with facts. Ideas are only worth whatever one's interest is, and 0 if proven false.

    Was there a Cataclysmic tidal wave flooding the earth?

    If a large meteor, or comet, hit the earth in the ocean, then ripples of waves could circle the earth. This may happen more than once.

    Picture a small globe with 100% ocean surface of a sufficient depth throughout. Now create a ripple at one spot. It would extend outwards and converge on the point on the globe opposite to the original impact point, and continue to converge and diverge back and forth between these two points. It would do so alternatively between the two opposing points until the energy dissipates.

    Now for a planet like earth with irregular land mass, the second convergent point would not be a point but a region, and the convergence time would not be uniform. The third convergence point would be more distorted and so on.

    Such tidal waves could erode sedimentary layers on land and under shallow sea, and later deposit that eroded silt when the velocity of the wave gets low.

    Scrap Markings, Perhaps? on the Earth

    06-Africa-S-South Africa-Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park 1
    12-Australia zoom
    14-South America
    15-North America 1
    16-North America 2
    27-South America-W-Peru

    Note It could be wind erosion but what if it is not. What if it was caused by boulders being dragged by a tidal wave.

    Look at these scrap markings. I am thinking of boulders being dragged in a tidal wave and eroding the surface.

    Maybe a comet hit in the ocean causing a wave that could circle the earth more than once.

    Desert/Semi-Arid Regions

    05-Africa-S-Namibia-Salt Pan
    07-Africa-S-South Africa-Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park 2
    08-Africa-S-South Africa-Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park 3
    The Sahara Desert
    17-Mexico-NW-near Cali
    18-Utah-Glen Canyon
    19-Utah-Glen Canyon
    21-Australia-Munga Thirri 1
    22-Australia-Munga Thirri 2
    23-Australia-Munga Thirri 3
    24-Australia-Simpson Desert
    25-South America-W-Bolivia 1
    26-South America-W-Bolivia 2

    Note: Generally the western region is more arid of land masses around the equator. Explanation below.

    Namibia to the west of the southern part of Africa has a desert region. It looks like wind erosion had formed giant sand dunes. The wind could be very strong there. Maybe just as how the wind forms waves on the sea by resonance, it forms waves on the land in the form of sand dunes in the predominant wind direction. That is my bet.

    Check this out:,-3.977,5
    The wind direction is a bit misleading because you have to look at the wind at different altitudes, and at different times of days to get the ground predominant wind direction.

    Generally, arid regions will persists where the land surface can be hot and not allow condensation, for the day time. In the night, dew may form IF the humidity was high.

    Generally, red mineral sand will get hotter than white sand because of broader band absorption.

    Generally, there is rise of air in the day, and exposed water is loss to provide humidity for the rising air current.

    Generally, also, there is a westward movement of air. In the day, at the solstice point X, there is an upward movement of air. Slightly north of X, at higher altitudes, there is a northward movement of air.

    Generally, land regions nearer the west of the land mass get less rain.

    Sometimes mountains filter the humidity from the atmosphere to the east side of the mountain and little remains on the west side.

    In the night, dew on the land to the east near the sea.

    Just the change in time of day can cause clouds to form if enough humidity was present.

    The west region of land masses at the equator may not be an end point in the water cycle.

    What if we could carefully make it end in the water cycle.

    If there was a cataclysm, the new presence of red sand and the loss of vegetation could mess with the existing water cycles.

    Note: The salt pan in Namibia is a suggestion that sea water did come onto the land. Even if by wind, but if that much water was coming from the sea, then I would expect the land to be less dry. I wonder if it was done in a short period like during a tidal cataclysm.

    Note: Some areas to me look like scarp land and others sand dunes.

    Munga Thirri in East Central Australia is near the scraped lad with the red deposit as well as Simpson Desert. West of that is also arid. There is Gibson Desert Nature Reserve and Great Victoria Desert Nature Reserve in Australia.

    West of South America in part of Bolivia, the land is Semi-arid, but not so arid as the mountains nearby can filter some of the humidity via cooling.
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    Ancient Volcanoes?

    28-Bolivia-W-volcanoes 1
    29-Bolivia-W-volcanoes 2
    20-North America-W-Utah
    Oljato-Monument in Utah to the west of USA

    Look at pic with Bolivia volcanoes and pic of Oljato-Monument in Utah.
    It looks, to me, could be wrong, that it is eroded multi-volcanic landscape, leaving behind the solid volcanic cores of the volcanoes (of harden magma). Hypothesis is that that land was once a volcanic region like in Bolivia (near Chile) filled with volcanic chains. The vertical lines are irregularities in the magma (like speed and composition) when it was rising vertically in the volcano. The horizontal lines are water erosion lines. Perhaps ancient land was low to the level of the sea, and later rose above the level. This rise can be caused by tectonic plate activity, similar to in Chile and Bolivia region now. I think there are mountains nearby. The mound around the solid core column of the monument is just "older" sedimentary layers of land. That mound was more sheltered from horizontal erosion because of it proximity to the column. The monument could be ancient man-made megalithic but I am guessing ancient volcanoes.

    Take another look at these volcano chains in Bolivia. Note that a tectonic plate is sliding under south America from the west. The light silicon melts and as it is less dense it rises under the land mass, increasing pressure in some spots, and then it bubbles out to the surface in the form of volcanoes. This could continue until the land mass reaches a new thickness and curved layer at that spot. Ah maybe. (Take my hypothesis as just that with a grain of salt)

    In the North-west Mexico, near California region, I noticed some volcanic craters. Example "Reserva de la Biosfera El Pinacate y Gran Desierto de Altar". What can cause a volcanic crater explosion. I am not a study Geologist, but pressure is first suspect, what can cause pressure, heat and a material that expands when heated. Here I would guess to say water in surface sedimentary rock, and carbonates. Maybe sulphate minerals in rocks.
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    The basic water cycle - Water evaporates from ocean/(land with moisture/trees) --> clouds form where current move to cooler temperatures --> rain falls at that region

    The earth has a general air current from the equator upwards then northwards at higher altitude. the loss in air molecules is replenished from lower altitudes. Also the is a general movement of the atmosphere to the right/west. This is because the earth rotates to the left/east. The atmosphere will have many spots of air current movements or complicated air cycles, which essentially make the atmosphere a little gyroscopic with some localized spot of angular momentum. So the atmosphere does not rotate the same way with the earth but lags which makes it appear as there is a general current to the right\west

    -Wind formation is generally from high to low pressure driven by temperature/density change
    -Mountains affect condensation
    -Collision of air fronts of different temperatures, affect condensation
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    Weather-Forming (continued)

    Note the coloured sand in places like the Sahara. I am not good with colours, is that red?
    That colored soil could imply transitional metals which would and a broad band absorption spectrum

    What if a tidal wave eroded the (relatively soft) sedimentary rock all over the earth and deposited it on regions when its velocity finally reduced.

    What if the change in the landscape (if there was) caused a change in the climate. The land would have a different heating factor, especially with vegetation destroyed. The water cycle would adjust as more hot air would rise of the land causing less precipitation over said land.

    If such changes could affect the climate then other changings may reverse the arid conditions

    Look at some of the pictures. Some arid regions are to the west of the continent. Water in the water cycle from the the ocean would be dumped to the east without much left back for the west.

    The idea of weather-forming is to have an accurate enough super computer running a detailed weather sim. Details like how clouds accumulate from small patches of clouds due to the , weak force/electro amongst water molecules may be included.

    Then to initiate stage one of the water cycle: Heat the ocean to a significant degree. Near the East coast, create several hundreds of large shallow, black ponds and pump filtered (no fish creatures) sea water into them. (I think that might even be too small to make any significant change). The idea is to increase the amount of water vapour to the left/west. If humidity is high, then condensation may occur when the height is reach. Where the rain falls, perhaps plant cacti vegetation there. Pump the water a little distance to the left/west and repeat the weather-forming. Obviously this will not work with out a proper sim of it working. And changes in the input plan can be done in the sim. Example, different times in the day. This would take collaboration with different regions, but the overall output can benefit all. Emphasis that the sim must be very accurate before collaborative execution.

    Jamaica is good because we have mountains/hills and the sea right around us. What we have to worry about are hurricanes.

    It may be possible to observe a hurricane data, the cloud cover of the hurricane itself could affect which spots on land heat during the day which may feed back into the formation and travel of the hurricane. Also it would have more angular momentum and tend to move more west-ish

    Other ideas to look into carefully is "seeding" by a glider using steam at a spot in the atmosphere, may be to block sunlight or maybe to provide more molecular attractive force. Or to mix atmospheric air with ice or liquid nitrogen to create a cold front.

    The simulation should be able to predict what the ground temperature change and upper atmosphere temp change if a cloud is formed that blocks and absorbs some sunlight, if done in the daytime.

    The last concern is certain/some people do not have [b]no behaviour[/n] and selfishly abuse a countries resource for themselves alone.
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