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    Quote Originally Posted by khat17 View Post
    While money making and forced obsolescence are hand-in-hand, I understand that HARDWARE upgrades are needed to mitigate potential vulnerabilities. If you are going to whine about Windows then WINE. Switch to the Penguin - any flavour. Or go Mac.....bleh...

    Anyways. The majority market share is Windows - so to troubleshoot and be familiar I use it. That and games really. It's hard to switch to Linux totally for me due to the differences and lack of certain features. Last Debian/Ubuntu I had working and customized crashed due to dual booting. But yeah...

    MS is trying to be like Linux/Mac in how they deliver things. But from a friend that's a Mac user - the UI stays the same with every update - just a facelift. You know what to expect when you move between Macs, unlike Windows where the facelift gives new everything. The move to a "cloud" platform where they offload the work from their servers was smart - but it should be something you can fully opt out of.

    There's too much to discuss on this topic - but I'm on 10 and not moving to 11 until it's tested. I'm on 10 because it's what's shipped with my devices (except desktop). The license I have for my desktop was from the upgrade between 7 and 10 like a lot of persons.

    What they should do is make it cheaper so that everyone can get it. Home with it's stripped features should be like $50-$100 (instead of $140). Pro should be like $150-$300 (starts at $200). They should also have either payment plans or subscriptions that include the OS. But - their business model and they're making money so....Yeah.
    They actually do have subscriptions that include the OS but its for Windows Pro. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...ion-activation

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    Quote Originally Posted by psilos View Post
    They actually do have subscriptions that include the OS but its for Windows Pro. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...ion-activation
    Was unaware of this - thanks for that.
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    In case anyone is interested, older CPUs definitely will not get Windows 11 this time around.

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...tel-processors

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...amd-processors

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    Quote Originally Posted by psilos View Post
    In case anyone is interested, older CPUs definitely will not get Windows 11 this time around.

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...tel-processors

    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...amd-processors
    All these gaming features and M$ wants to leave one of their biggest user base behind unless they can keep up with the times? This video pretty much sums up why I am delaying my day one update or no update depending on if they have a version for older hardware:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powpow View Post
    All these gaming features and M$ wants to leave one of their biggest user base behind unless they can keep up with the times? This video pretty much sums up why I am delaying my day one update or no update depending on if they have a version for older hardware:

    So they're making TPM mandatory? Great. No older hardware at all. Time to upgrade...
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    I'll wait for Windows 12.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch_Angel View Post
    I'll wait for Windows 12.


    I guess 11 will be the flop then. I don't think they're going to remove features though - maybe when SP1 is released you'll see some modifications. But I guess we'll find out eventually.
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    I just upgraded from XP like 6 months ago because I needed 64bits, lol. Interface refreshes do nothing for me. lol. worse if they are going to abuse my hardware with superfluous stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by owen View Post
    I just upgraded from XP like 6 months ago because I needed 64bits, lol. Interface refreshes do nothing for me. lol. worse if they are going to abuse my hardware with superfluous stuff.
    I believe there was a x64 WinXP though.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Window...al_x64_Edition
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    Yeah but it isn't practical to move to xp64. You lose a lot more than you gain and the drivers would be a nightmare.

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