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    In a lame attempt to direct traffic to their pathetic websites, a website has reported that Geohot has "fled" the country after court documents reveal a PSN account alleged to belong to him. Normally, we would not report on something so completely ridiculous but, unfortunately, this nonsense is starting to spread to mainstream websites.

    Hotz is currently on vacation in a South American country. As common sense would dictate, there is no reason to "flee" from a civil case. These sites have based their claims on misinterpretations of the court documents and an image (see below) posted on Geohot's blog. Way to put two and two together, guys!

    In the future, we recommend only getting your news from reputable sites, not random video game blogs. When there's something real to report on the case, you''ll read it here, as always. For the record, we are referring to the original source of the article, a blog called VGHQ.NET that just set itself up on March 1, 2011. Why mainstream news sites would source them is beyond me but let the conspiracy theories fly.

    UPDATE: IGN has received a comment on this false story from Stewart Kellar, Hotz's attorney, who confirms he is in constant contact with Geohot in regards to the case.

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    "The 'integral components' SCEA is talking about are stock controller cards, not the hard drives themselves," Kellar told IGN in an e-mail. "The neutral subsequently had to explain to SCEA the form and function of hard drive controller cards. Those controller cards have since been provided to the neutral so the point is moot."

    Kellar also states Hotz is using the donation money he received for the lawsuit only and will donate any leftover funds after the case has been resolved.

    "You can never take a vacation from a lawsuit. Mr. Hotz has had to make himself available 24/7 for this litigation, which has been quite demanding on him," he said. "You have to remember that Mr. Hotz didn't choose to fight this battle, but now that he has been sued, he has put his heart into fighting this case that has enormous implications for consumers world-wide."

    "As for any question as to whether Mr. Hotz has used donation money to take a trip to South America, that's pretty silly. Litigating against a massive company like Sony, who is represented by five attorneys, is very costly for a 21-year-old," Kellar added. "The donation money George has received is being used exclusively for his legal defense. If there are any funds left after the lawsuit, George is planning to donate the money to the EFF [Electronic Frontier Foundation]."
    In addition, Wired magazine was able to reach Kellar for comments...

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    Stewart Kellar, Hotz’s attorney, said the issue is overblown.

    “They didn’t have the controller card attached. That’s it,” Kellar said in a telephone interview Wednesday from his San Francisco office.

    He said that Hotz has since turned over the cards, solving the problem.

    Sony did not respond for comment.

    Hotz, who is also well-known in iPhone hacking circles, so far is fighting the case on jurisdictional grounds, and maintains he should be sued in New Jersey instead of California.

    As part of that battle, Sony claimed that it uncovered evidence that Hotz maintained an account on Sony’s PlayStation Network, which is based in Northern California. Hotz had denied holding a PSN account.

    In its filing, Sony also pointed out that Hotz has left the country.

    “Hotz conveniently traveled to South America in the midst of jurisdictional discovery, including his court-ordered deposition,” Sony said.

    “I don’t want to comment on that stuff,” Kellar said. “He has done nothing to make himself unavailable.”
    As for Sony's claims that Hotz has a PSN account under the name "Blickmaniac," they should probably take a closer look at the forum post they are using as evidence, since the geotag in the picture posted by the user leads to Cambridge, MA. That's not even close to New Jersey the last time we checked. So, yeah, life's good.
    http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6/geoho...america-83925/

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    Today's most infamous hacker, PS3 jailbreaker George "Geohot" Hotz, has laughed in the face of allegations that he fled Sony's lawyers and ran away to South America.

    "Apparently, I have fled the country. ROFL," wrote Hotz in a post titled "Fearmongering" on his Geohot Got Sued blog.

    "Factually, it's true I'm in South America, on a vacation I've had planned and paid for since November. I mean, it is spring break; hacking isn't my life.

    "Rest assured that not a dime of legal defence money would ever go toward something like this. And of course [Kilpatrick Townsend & Stockton - Sony's choice of legal firm on this matter] loves the idea of painting me as an international fugitive.

    "I have been in contact with my lawyers almost every day," Hotz added. "I would not let the case suffer.

    "That said, I also won't let this ridiculous lawsuit run my life either. Then the fearmongerers win."

    Hotz will return to North America because the Xperia Play, Sony's new PlayStation-themed phone, is "hard to come by" where he is. I think it's supposed to be a joke.

    Yesterday, Sony's lawyers accused Hotz of refusing to comply with court orders. "Hotz's attempts to dodge this Court's authority raise very serious questions," the legal team declared.

    Hotz faces an uphill battle against Sony in court. Judges have already ordered that Hotz turn over his computer for inspection. The authorities have also granted subpoenas spanning YouTube, Google, Twitter and Hotz's own website and PayPal account~. Why? To find out who else was involved with PS3 Jailbreak, and who downloaded the piracy-enabling hack.
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    You cant keep pushing the big companies and not expect them to eventually destroy you. Hotz is young and foolish.
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    You just gotta choose your battles. Sometimes we just gotta do stuff and not make everyone know about it don't brag and set yourself up yeesh hope the other yung un's will learn from geohotz mistakes
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    its ppl making those sacrifices that protect ppl like u and me. you guys want the powers that be running all over u I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by semitop View Post
    its ppl making those sacrifices that protect ppl like u and me. you guys want the powers that be running all over u I guess.
    Sigh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by semitop View Post
    its ppl making those sacrifices that protect ppl like u and me. you guys want the powers that be running all over u I guess.
    What sacrifices exactly? Didn't he trigger all of this for hacking the PS3, which in itself was an illegal act? Or is it just cracking that would be illegal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anubis View Post
    What sacrifices exactly? Didn't he trigger all of this for hacking the PS3, which in itself was an illegal act? Or is it just cracking that would be illegal?
    everybody keeps saying its a civil case. I don't know if its a question of legality or just sony saying he broke their arrangement when he helped hack the console. Sony doesn't like it so they try to bully the hackers through the court
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    Quote Originally Posted by semitop View Post
    everybody keeps saying its a civil case. I don't know if its a question of legality or just sony saying he broke their arrangement when he helped hack the console. Sony doesn't like it so they try to bully the hackers through the court
    I'm lost here, if he did something illegal how is it that a company suing him now falls in the realm of them bullies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by semitop View Post
    everybody keeps saying its a civil case. I don't know if its a question of legality or just sony saying he broke their arrangement when he helped hack the console. Sony doesn't like it so they try to bully the hackers through the court
    It is a legal matter.

    If you violate the agreement that comes with ownership of the hardware and the software which in simple terms states:

    Do not break into this system or we will prosecute you in a court of law

    Sony is legally authorized to take you to court and have the full weight of the law pressed against you.

    Yes you own the plastic and wires... but you do not have the right to find out how the software that runs it is made up since YOU AGREED TO WAIVE THAT RIGHT the day you purchased that plastic.


    Those little papers you get with the PS3 and the Agreement screens that pop up when you turn it on and you click... those are legally binding agreements supported by law.

    Those End User License Agreements all state that you are a mere license holder and that you are agreeing to the TERMS AND CONDITIONS of holding that license.

    GeoHotz is a genius level young man.

    However, genius does not give you the right to violate the law or the agreements he is subjected to by ownership of the device in question.

    He certainly does not Sony to violate his right either. Why would he remove his controller cards ? He too is concerned about his rights.

    Therefore, if GeoHotz is concerned about his rights, he should have been concerned about the rights of Sony Inc.

    He is brilliant with and significant academic abilities, Yet he failed to really figure out that you don't violate the right of one group, no matter how big it is, and expect to not have your rights brought before the courts.

    Genius people often have difficult seeing the simple things of life and money.

    GeoHotz will now have to PROVE beyond a reasonable doubt that his intent was not malicious and it was purely academic... but he is not in a scholastic program that would warrant his breaking the system... and if it was genuinely academic, he would have written a letter of intent to Sony and gotten written permission from them to do the work he did.

    This is also clearly listed in the EULA.

    The EULA states clearly...

    "USE THIS SYSTEM ONLY IF YOU AGREE TO THIS CONDITION: DO NOT BREAK THIS SYSTEM !"

    He went against that... LEGALLY binding request

    He is for now quite screwed.

    The inability of apple to prosecute GeoHotz will be used to say that GeoHotz has a disregard for the law... and because he is smart he is arrogant. When they are done... this 21 year old will come out either

    stronger or and free

    broken and jailed.

    He best have a damn good lawyer
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