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    Quote Originally Posted by KoyoteGambit View Post
    Wow, talk about a conspiracy thread. There are tonnes of unknown and very few known about this situation, what I dont expect (and forgive me for being naive) is techies, especially the ones here, to fall into the group of rumor spreading and guessing scenario. Please, lets just wait and see, I promise you, it will all hit the sun light very soon, if not, we head for a Haitian like state. And always remember, the media is sometimes close, but never 100% correct.
    Well i would say the media is usually like 60-70% right, and its not about the presi, its about the gov officials linked to presi. Anyways cant say too much bout that cuz mi no want US start spy on mi too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by papa_d View Post
    Well i would say the media is usually like 60-70% right, and its not about the presi, its about the gov officials linked to presi. Anyways cant say too much bout that cuz mi no want US start spy on mi too.
    you seeit......... thats y him cant even get lock up to backfoot.
    Back to square one....., back off the ground now........

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    All me have to say if it was anyone else even a pick pocket the government send dem weh long time no itching but since the man and dem inna bed dem a itch because them know them dirty laundry ago come out inna the light and them no want that but anything inna the dark must come out. America probably just a easy because is ere the fastest man come from and them no want it look nuh way fi man handle the ting. Ya'll can keep on speculating bout THE MAN watching us all u guys want but remember that if them can go bomb iraq fi one man what them would do to little jamaica and unlike the lalibans how much a unuh willing fi lay dung ya'll life for one man. America's technology far surpasses unuh wildest imaginations so stop thinking them can do this and them can do that and do like me,grab a bag a popcorn and watch the saga unfold

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    Ok . This is just getting silly now. The Observer article is just nother example of the shameful state of Jamaican journalism (NO EXCEPTIONS)

    From TV Tropes:

    Much loved things of the Spy Drama and one that they most frequently mess up on, the omnipresent "eye-in-the-sky" is always shown to be a whole lot more useful than it truly is.

    Satellite views are usually shown to be immune to clouds, 100 percent reliable, always available, and seem to be right over the target just when they are needed. The biggest error, however, is showing a live fixed video feed from orbit.

    Consider the fact that most spy satellites orbit around 200 miles or so above the ground. This means that it has to travel at six or seven miles per second to stay in orbit. The amount of live feed you can get, therefore, is next to zero and you'll have to have the satellite rotating to do it. Slanting will occur very rapidly. If you want to hold a satellite over a place for any major length of time, you need to put it into geostationary orbit (22,240 miles over the equator) or an elliptical 'Molniya-style' orbit. Any images will be uselessly slanted, unless you happen to want good shots of Ecuador and have a really powerful zoom lens. It should also be pointed out that according to the International Institute for Strategic Studies' 2007 Military Balance, the US only has three visual satellites in orbit.
    It is possible it is a drone just hovering discreetly and relaying the information via satellite.
    Drones are noisy beasts with horrible resolution. And they need to be fueled.

    This technology is possible, if satellite can views stars "light years" away, way can't it zoom in on Tivoli, people, read the same internet and step up on your tech info. Have you guys ever watch Enemy Of The State, with Will Smith, that Sh.....t is real. Don't under estimate technology. And guys you don't know about the CIA, it's not all about in movies.
    Jesus Christ. We are basing our evidence on works of fiction now?
    Here are some of the many errors in Enemy of The State

    Factual errors: Near the beginning of the movie when the very powerful spy satellite is brought into use, one scene shows that there is a layer of high clouds, probably cirrostratus. Although high clouds can be translucent to the sun, there is no way the satellite could get a crystal clear view of people running around at the surface. Even awesome technology could not accomplish this. It is obviously a visible image because there is full color.

    Factual errors: It is impossible to obtain a 3D image of the shopping bag (or anything) from one camera feed that the investigators had. Supposing that they had another camera in the store, they would simply have two images from different points of view but the rotating p.o.v. still cannot be achieved this way.
    We could have avoided this with a simple trip to How Stuff Works.

    And about those stars light years away:

    Since time immemorial(not really), people have been fascinated by spy satellites. Everybody wonders what they do and what sort of new information do governments have on each other. One of the most reliable sources of intelligence has always been Imagery Intelligence, from Aerial Intelligence to Imagery gathered using Satellites. From the days of Hot Air Balloons taking pictures, to the day of the U-2 and Sr-71 to the days of KH-11 and today’s era of high resolution commercial satellites, spy imaging has been a great asset for all governments.

    A nearly universal myth tells the story of US and Russian Spy Satellites being able to read car number plates and the headlines of newspapers being held on a sidewalk clearly, but is that true? Here is the truth.

    Rayleigh’s Criterion gives us the highest possible resolution for an optical device with a circular aperture. It is expressed as follows :



    As explained clearly by me on Wikipedia, the Hubble Space Telescope has a Diameter of 2.4m. Hubble being one of the biggest bad-*** satellites ever launched should be able to see my car plate if it can see a galaxy a gazillion miles away. Mathematically, the highest possible resolution for Hubble comes out to be around 16cm which is around 6.3 inches or half a foot. Now that is good enough to spot a car and a building in detail but not good enough to read a newspaper headline.

    Modern day spy satellites have highest resolutions around 10cm and even that is not enough to read a newspaper headline. The Federation of American Scientists explain:



    .1cm , not possible with today's technology



    1cm resolution



    10cm. Today's best. Not good enough to tell Zekes from Dudus.
    Consider this. All the Dons and Shooters of old are either dead or exiled --- except Dudus.Thus, the only constituency not subdued and under total state control is Tivoli. If Dudus is gone, Bruce can easily fill the void himself. But he cannot make an overt move. lest he be hated forever. Wouldn't it thn make better sense to play good cop, bad cop? Bruce is the good cop and US the bad.

    Then , if the US does snatch him, he can play innocent and 'damn Imperialist America' all while sucking off some more foreign aid?

    Now thats a conspiracy worth pondering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepyX View Post
    Ok . This is just getting silly now. The Observer article is just nother example of the shameful state of Jamaican journalism (NO EXCEPTIONS)

    From TV Tropes:





    Drones are noisy beasts with horrible resolution. And they need to be fueled.



    Jesus Christ. We are basing our evidence on works of fiction now?
    Here are some of the many errors in Enemy of The State



    We could have avoided this with a simple trip to How Stuff Works.

    And about those stars light years away:



    Consider this. All the Dons and Shooters of old are either dead or exiled --- except Dudus.Thus, the only constituency not subdued and under total state control is Tivoli. If Dudus is gone, Bruce can easily fill the void himself. But he cannot make an overt move. lest he be hated forever. Wouldn't it thn make better sense to play good cop, bad cop? Bruce is the good cop and US the bad.

    Then , if the US does snatch him, he can play innocent and 'damn Imperialist America' all while sucking off some more foreign aid?

    Now that's a conspiracy worth pondering.
    So u feel say bruce dem just a play dudus fi fool.

    I do hope that that is so.
    THANK GOD

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