League of Legends

[zelink]

Well i made j4mrock and sent out some invites. So we could have training with each of the teams. So for main j4mrock team so far, i have myself, pow and lonewulf, added, omega, kazwin, los and dumlock but still nuh get a response.

I know there are more than 30 ja players who bun this still. Each team consists of 8 players. So maybe we have 3 teams of 8 competing with each other to be on one big team. The standard named used by most of these gamers here is J4mR0cK so currently that is the name of the clan i have created. So the other ja guys can run some and mek wi run some skirmish games to see who deserves to be on the main team.

I have no problem paying the fee to be on the pro circuit.

[semitop]

IGN - iRage Inc

I can play till I get banned... or till I get swamped by school.

ELO - 9000
Roles - not support( that be gay), and preferably not tank cause that's usually boring too.

Team name: something other than j4mrock. Bout time we stop naming ourselves after the country. I propose "AIDS" or "STI"

[semitop]

The worst thing about this game really are the incompetent players. Ruins the fun

[High Hemplar]

Well, thats an argument for pushing serious 5s play. As I was discussing with Kaz last night, anyone who wants to play in tournament games should be able to grind ranked. Complaining about feeders, leavers, and trolls, makes absolutely no sense. Bad players exist in every game, both on your team and on the enemy team, deal with it. A good player can ROFLSTOMP anything below 1400 without breaking a sweat.

I regularly practice with mid-high elo players and I wont hide and talk, majority of JA players I play with have A LOT of improving to do (including myself). So we need to man up and grind some ranked games. As I said before, I can setup some scrims against good teams. I'm all up for setting up some matches on Saturday, lemme know if y'all interested.

[semitop]

Well, thats an argument for pushing serious 5s play. As I was discussing with Kaz last night, anyone who wants to play in tournament games should be able to grind ranked. Complaining about feeders, leavers, and trolls, makes absolutely no sense. Bad players exist in every game, both on your team and on the enemy team, deal with it. A good player can ROFLSTOMP anything below 1400 without breaking a sweat.

I regularly practice with mid-high elo players and I wont hide and talk, majority of JA players I play with have A LOT of improving to do (including myself). So we need to man up and grind some ranked games. As I said before, I can setup some scrims against good teams. I'm all up for setting up some matches on Saturday, lemme know if y'all interested.

People keep saying that, but they know its not true. Even the top players lose if someone on their team is bad and it really doesn't matter what lvl unless its REALLY REALLY bad elo players. Any average team stands a chance against a top elo player if the top elo player has 2-4 bad players on his team. Yesterday I went something like 12-5 with annie. Rest of the team? 1-11, 2-8, 1-6, 5-4 (approximations). From the outset they were feeding and the other team was just ok. You'd need to be playing a pretty hard carry to win that. Akali done got nerfed and I can't think of another.

I know my games isn't great. The game before the one I played annie, I was vayne and I played like crap. Still ended up carrying but I wasn't used to vayne. Thats the problem with playing every champ, I have no main. Then my clicking gets funky at times (has always been that way from Company of heroes days). I'll probably never find the perfect mouse, mousepad and sensitivity settings along with some quirks in the game where what you click might not be what is clicked. Improving hasn't been my focus, i just need people who can play. Losing after taking down 5 towers alone and going 20+ in kills is just not something I care for.

[High Hemplar]

A good player can ROFLSTOMP anything below 1400 without breaking a sweat.

Honestly, its a cold hard fact. If you cant convert your superior knowledge/skills to wins in say 7/10 games, you really arent a good player. And thats not necessarily a bad thing, most players are at best average. However, I believe everyone can improve once they stop blaming other people and look at ways to step up their game. And that process can be sped up by playing with an arranged team.

...Any average team stands a chance against a top elo player if the top elo player has 2-4 bad players on his team...

Simply, no. I've seen this countless amount of times. 1900 player plays with a bunch of unranked to help them out, plays against a mid elo(1500) team, and DESTROYS them. Far superior knowledge/skills = wins.

[Powpow]

Well I've played more than 100 solo and some duo ranked games since Season 2 and my win ratio has definitely gone up. I was in elo hell for a week because of leavers, afkers, feeders and rage quitters but got out eventually.

It's best to play a carry type role if you want to increase your win rate, especially a tank jungler as you can easily help out your teams weaker lane and get early game advantage. No one likes losing but that's what makes you learn stuff so I used that for my advantage and made sure I learned to play every role.

My main roles are tanking and support though and ofcourse people hardly tank so I usually end up taking that role and win most of my matches when I jungle Rammus.

[semitop]

A good player can ROFLSTOMP anything below 1400 without breaking a sweat.

Honestly, its a cold hard fact. If you cant convert your superior knowledge/skills to wins in say 7/10 games, you really arent a good player. And thats not necessarily a bad thing, most players are at best average. However, I believe everyone can improve once they stop blaming other people and look at ways to step up their game. And that process can be sped up by playing with an arranged team.



Simply, no. I've seen this countless amount of times. 1900 player plays with a bunch of unranked to help them out, plays against a mid elo(1500) team, and DESTROYS them. Far superior knowledge/skills = wins.

I'll believe it when I see it. So far all I have seen watching higher elos play is losing when team sucks and winning when team is ok. They also almost always use voice chat and their team comps are planned.

What you described is not random btw. Helping out a group of people means you knew them before the match, possibly planned something and possibly use voice chat. The question of how bad the other team was is also an issue. Most of my games, if I am doing well and we are winning, they go straight for me. The other team is not going to normally sit around and watch you carry. So I would guess that your high elo player has a team that actually supports him at least and listens. Not the same situation at all.

When I watch these guys play its nothing different. I have had a 1800/1900 elo on my account do crazy well and lose. He wouldn't get on my account again after that and he avoided playing too many ranked games (random solo) for the very reason that you can't control it.

What you think is possible is not so possible when you are playing with total strangers with likely crap skill. How many games do you think I see only boxes in my chat? teams with all 4 koreans and I alone speaking english, I alone doing well? I'm going to blame all I want. I am aware of when I screw up in a game, so its not like I don't pay attention to what I do. Hence why I know i played a crap vayne and I know when I shoulda done something. Doesn't change the fact that I get screwed over once the other team realizes what's going on. Sometimes they focus me and my team manages to pick them off (cause I have to run away once a fight starts and they chase hard), but most times 1 player is easy to counter.

[High Hemplar]

I'll believe it when I see it. So far all I have seen watching higher elos play is losing when team sucks and winning when team is ok. They also almost always use voice chat and their team comps are planned.

I guess you havent seen, saintviscious, bigfatlp, oddone, chauster, salce..pretty much every high elo player solo q on smurfs. Even regular good players like camera, wallstop, and mandatorycloud, have done the smurf thing and recorded it. 99% of games below 1400 rating are trash games. If you REALLY ARE A GOOD PLAYER, you WILL take out the trash, plain and simple. As I said earlier, most people are average and assume they are good, hence they have less of an effect on the flow of the game. Sure they'll be crap streaks, but again, law of averages, with consistently great play you will rise.

Good players:
Outfarm everyone, shutdown their lane, shutdown other lanes by ganking, direct team objectives, and win the game by virtue of the landslide gold difference between teams.

at 1400 and below:
If you cant outfarm everyone, you are not a good player.
If you cant outharass and zone your lane opponent, you are not a good player.
If you cant convert your lane dominance into ganks on other lanes/enemy jungler, you are not a good player.
If you cant convert all those kills into turrets/dragon/map control you are not a good player.
If you cant close out a game with such a lead, you are not a good player.

Plain and simple.

[High Hemplar]

When I watch these guys play its nothing different. I have had a 1800/1900 elo on my account do crazy well and lose...

...Sometimes they focus me and my team manages to pick them off (cause I have to run away once a fight starts and they chase hard), but most times 1 player is easy to counter.

I dont mean to pick apart your arguments but that thinking is flawed.

Firstly, WATCHING high elo players play is TOTALLY DIFFERENT from PLAYING with high elo players. They will RAPE you in a game, make no mistake. Secondly, 1 great player is NOT easily countered by 5 trash players. Trust me, when you are good(refer to points in previous post), its like you are playing a TOTALLY different game from the bads, and you will win much more than you lose.