View Poll Results: Have you ever stolen software?

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Thread: What R Ur Views On Stealing Softwares

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    hit you with the same thing I posted in the same thing I said in the other thread

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    In the criminal law, theft (also known as stealing) is the illegal taking of another person's property without that person's freely-given consent.
    Copyright infringement of software

    In an agricultural legal sense, copyright infringement is always equivalent to theft because the owner is always directly deprived of an item. Even if it is assumed that only a portion of those infringing the author's copyright would ever have bought the software, the author will still suffer an economic loss as a result.
    and also a quote from AA
    Quote Originally Posted by Arch_Angel View Post
    How can stealing software be a matter of opinion? If you take and use the software that the developer/author has asked you to pay for, how does yours or mine or anyone else's opinion matter in that regards?

    And it is called stealing. It is stealing of a persons intellectual property.

    If you would like to call it something less harsher, software piracy is one term or infringing on the licenses stipulated by the EULA that comes with the software.

    Whatever the legal terms may be, it's illegal and it's wrong.

    What other reasons are there that people use to downplay the reality that what they are doing is wrong?
    When I look at the post that people are making in response to this topic it really seem that these people are trying to justify stealing software...
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    I think most of this talk about getting caught and going to jail is just fear mongering. Small time software pirates i.e. those who steal for personal use at home are not at serious risk at been hunted down and prosecuted. They are going after those who distribute pirated software, and also businesses that use pirated software in their establishment. Granted every now and then you will hear of some small time chump getting caught and arrested, that’s just for show and to create fear, they don’t have the resources to hunt down small fries, if they were really going after the small time pirate most of us would be in jail by now including the fear mongers!

    With that been said, I honestly believe that people should stop stealing software, I’m trying to go legit now, not out of fear, but a conscience thing. I however find it difficult and expensive to go legit. Despite what people want to say, there are not always suitable freeware alternatives out there. Also the market for cheaper second hand software locally is limited, which has the effect of forcing ppl to make certain choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post
    I think most of this talk about getting caught and going to jail is just fear mongering. Small time software pirates i.e. those who steal for personal use at home are not at serious risk at been hunted down and prosecuted. They are going after those who distribute pirated software, and also businesses that use pirated software in their establishment. Granted every now and then you will hear of some small time chump getting caught and arrested, that’s just for show and to create fear, they don’t have the resources to hunt down small fries, if they were really going after the small time pirate most of us would be in jail by now including the fear mongers!
    actually its not that hard to track down these people any more...people are using torrents more and more and ISPs can track that traffic fairly easily...who knows one of these days you might be chumps...
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    Well if I cant find a free open source alternative to the software I need and if its affordable like in the $1 ~ $150 usd range I'll purchase it. For example I have no problem purchasing a 1 year subscription for a virus scanner if it offers excellent protection. I will never fork out $$$$$ for a piece of software unless it is a productivity tool for business and I make several times more because of that software. I have however obtained a few (2 or 3) software I cant do without via p2p networks. about 90% of the software I use are open source or free.

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    Moved/copied posts from the antivirus thread to this thread.
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    Stealing Softwares. One of the bigest topics on land right nowfor software developers on a whole. Thing is man made it, A man CAN crack it but it aint right. there are many running a pirated Windows (based on judgement, don't kill me) at the mo.
    Is a crazy world we living in and it aint gonna stop. Ja's in particular jus luv the FREENESS. And still wannt use that same freeness and make money (dat no right). Picture urself being a software maker (like Microsoft or some other large developer), u spend days and nights (even yrs) writing, troubleshooting... and trust me its hard. and to wake up 1 day and see ur hard worked piece go freely in thousands of computers without a cent coming into ur hand, how would u feel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilaj1 View Post
    actually its not that hard to track down these people any more...people are using torrents more and more and ISPs can track that traffic fairly easily...who knows one of these days you might be chumps...
    I’m not arguing about detection, I’m more talking about available resources to physically apprehend and prosecute individuals in the courts. Getting someone through the courts is not an easy task. The share volume of cases would make it impractical for them to go after the small fries. That’s the point was trying to make. So trying to scare people with this jail time argument nuh mek it.
    Oh btw I’m not advocating software piracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAngel View Post
    I’m not arguing about easy of detection, I’m more talking about available resources to physically apprehend and prosecute individuals in the courts. Getting someone through the courts is not an easy task. The share volume of cases would make it impractical for them to go after the small fries. That’s the point was trying to make. So trying to scare people with this jail time argument nuh mek it.
    Oh btw I’m not advocating software piracy.
    I get what you saying, but a few years ago they wheren't raiding people houses for pirated DVDs and running down the street walkers with them DVDs, there doing it now, JA gov seem to like to follow in america's foot steps alot...the BSA is in JA now, they might start suing john does in ja (unlikely).

    Its true they don't REALLY run down the small fry, BUT there have been known cases where C&W would send letters to there customers letting them know they see there activity...so reporting that activity not that far off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch_Angel View Post
    How can stealing software be a matter of opinion? If you take and use the software that the developer/author has asked you to pay for, how does yours or mine or anyone else's opinion matter in that regards?

    And it is called stealing. It is stealing of a persons intellectual property.

    If you would like to call it something less harsher, software piracy is one term or infringing on the licenses stipulated by the EULA that comes with the software.

    Whatever the legal terms may be, it's illegal and it's wrong.

    What other reasons are there that people use to downplay the reality that what they are doing is wrong?
    ok AA maybe "opinion" was the incorrect word to use and as i stated in my post im not advocating the process i just gave MY VIEW on the situation
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilaj1 View Post
    The word discrete don't mean nothing to you ehh I've posted previously maybe in one of the threads that AA posted that I use to do this (when i just got my big bad 56k dialup). But eventually the I decided that its not worth the risk...Music, Movies, software ...when it lands u in jail and you talking with your cell buddy about what u in for...tell him software piracy and him go tell u hes in for rape or murder...you will know where u stand in the food chain

    And you really need to stop advocating it...or dont dont matter to me, you want to label your self a thief fine by me.
    man a your mouth yu can seh anything yu want, stealing not going to stop

    Quote Originally Posted by duster View Post
    Arch Angel you are another "holier than thou" i bet you download illegal soft. you probably got a bootleg vista running right now not to mention all the porn you download. . i know you are a MOD on this site sorry "super mod" and just want to be politically correct so i understand where you coming from!
    bullet bullet mi knw seh him a theif software to suh mi nuh knw him nah admit it bwoy o bwoy suh man hard lol
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