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    Ok. I've seen several posts around here on highly anticipated movies and I've never really shown any level of interest in them either because some of them are not really my type or I was not that gung-ho about them.

    This is about to change. There is one movie that is probably the most controversial movie in recent times and I've already promised myself to not only watch it when it's shown here but maybe but the DVD when released. This movie is "The Passion of the Christ" by Mel Gibson. I've been keenly watching the news and editorials on the movie and all I can say is YEAH! ;D

    The movie is IMHO set to introduce a fresh breath of air in Holywood and will awaken many persons in the movie industry. After watching the movie I'm sure that they can never say that they were never ministered to. The fact that there are already so many critics and detractors of the movie and of Gibson is in my opinion a great sign. Why? Well, anytime evil is faced with a reminder of what Christ did for us and the fact with Christ's resurrection the devil is defeated in his plan makes teh devil and his cronies seriously uncomfrtable ;D When movies are released that are encouraging and promoting slackness, the occult, etc., you don't hear any groups come out to complain. No. They all chalk it down as harmless entertainment :

    This movie is a must see.

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    Yeah, that movie is hot on the religous table right. I have been reading articles on it and listening to the news about it. I saw the Dian Saywer (her name spell right?) interview of Mel Gibson of it last night.

    But the movie is rated R for violence. Some parents are saying they are still going to bring thier kids to watch the movie. Poor kids.

    I don't know if I have the stomach to watch Jesus die all over again. The thought of the nails being hammered into His hands already gives me the chills. Now to see this all reacted, in such horror that it has to be rated R...I dunno. I might end up going to see it with friends anyway.

    It's amazing though to hear the things that happened on the set during the time of filming. I read that the guy who played Jesus was struck twice by lightning along with another guy. They both came out alright. Also a number of miracles happened during the filming. Not to mention a number of persons came to know Jesus personally.

    Article found here: http://www.crosswalk.com/fun/1243862.html

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    Thanks for the link AA, it's a good read

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    thanks for telling me about this movie believe it or not but this was the first time hearing about this movie ....but will be one of the 1st to watch it in theatres it wont miss me ..thnx for the link to AA really nice read ;D

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    Got these articles in an email... sorry didn't have the urls so have posted whole. I look forward to this flick wish it had debut here tomorrow as well but understand is scheduled for release next month.


    Paul Harvey Comments on "The Passion" by Mel Gibson


    The majority of the media are complaining about this movie. Now Paul Harvey tells "The rest of the story" and David Limbaugh praises Gibson. Most people would wait and see a movie before giving the reviews that have been issued by the reporters trying to tell all of us what to believe.

    Paul Harvey's words: I really did not know what to expect. I was thrilled to have been invited to a private viewing of Mel Gibson's film "The Passion," but I had also read all the cautious articles and spin. I grew up in a Jewish town and owe much of my own faith journey to the influence. I have a life long, deeply held aversion to anything that might even indirectly encourage any form of anti-Semitic thought, language or actions. I arrived at the private viewing for "The Passion", held in Washington DC and greeted some familiar faces. The environment was typically Washingtonian, with people greeting you with a smile but seeming to look beyond you, having an agenda beyond the words. The film was very briefly introduced, without fanfare, and then the room darkened. From the gripping opening scene in the Garden of Gethsemane, to the very human and tender portrayal of the earthly ministry of Jesus, through the betrayal, the arrest, the scourging, the way of the cross, the encounter with the thieves, the surrender on the Cross, until the final scene in the empty tomb. This was not simply a movie; it was an encounter, unlike anything I have ever experienced. In addition to being a masterpiece of film-making and an artistic triumph, "The Passion" evoked more deep reflection, sorrow and emotional reaction within me than anything since my wedding, my ordination or the birth of my children. Frankly, I will never be the same.

    When the film concluded, this "invitation only" gathering of "movers and shakers" in Washington, DC were shaking indeed, but this time from sobbing. I am not sure there was a dry eye in the place. The crowd that had been glad-handing before the film was now eerily silent. No one could speak because words were woefully inadequate. We had experienced a kind of art that is a rarity in life, the kind that makes heaven touch earth. One scene in the film has now been forever etched in my mind. A brutalized, wounded Jesus was soon to fall again under the weight of the cross. His mother had made her way along the Via Della Rosa. As she ran to him, she flashed back to a memory of Jesus as a child, falling in the dirt road outside of their home. Just as she reached to protect him from the fall, she was now reaching to touch his wounded adult face. Jesus looked at her with intensely probing and passionately loving eyes (and at all of us through the screen) and said "Behold I make all things new."

    These are words taken from the last Book of the New Testament, the Book of Revelations. Suddenly, the purpose of the pain was so clear and the wounds, that earlier in the film had been so difficult to see in His face, His back, indeed all over His body, became intensely beautiful. They had been borne voluntarily for love. At the end of the film, after we had all had a chance to recover, a question and answer period ensued. The unanimous praise for the film, from a rather diverse crowd, was as astounding as the compliments were effusive. The questions included the one question that seems to follow this film, even though it has not yet even been released. "Why is this film considered by some to be "anti-Semitic?" Frankly, having now experienced (you do not "view" this film) "the Passion" it is a question that is impossible to answer.

    A law professor whom I admire sat in front of me. He raised his hand and responded,

    "After watching this film, I do not understand how anyone can insinuate that it even remotely presents that the Jews killed Jesus. It doesn't." He continued "It made me realize that my sins killed Jesus" I agree. There is not a scintilla of anti-Semitism to be found anywhere in this powerful film. If there were, I would be among the first to decry it. It faithfully tells the Gospel story in a dramatically beautiful, sensitive and profoundly engaging way. Those who are alleging otherwise have either not seen the film or have another agenda behind their protestations. This is not a "Christian" film, in the sense that it will appeal only to those who identify themselves as followers of Jesus Christ. It is a deeply human, beautiful story that will deeply touch all men and women It is a profound work of art. Yes, its producer is a Catholic Christian and thankfully has remained faithful to the Gospel text; if that is no longer acceptable behavior than we are all in trouble. History demands that we remain faithful to the story and Christians have a right to tell it. After all, we believe that it is the greatest story ever told and that its message is for all men and women. The greatest right is the right to hear the truth. We would all be well advised to remember that the Gospel narratives to which "The Passion" is so faithful were written by Jewish men who followed a Jewish Rabbi whose life and teaching have forever changed the history of the world. The problem is not the message but those who have distorted it and used it for hate rather than love. The solution is not to censor the message, but rather to promote the kind of gift of love that is Mel Gibson's filmmaking masterpiece, "The Passion." It should be seen by as many people as possible. I intend to do everything I can to make sure that is the case. I am passionate about "The Passion." You will be as well. Don't miss it!




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    2nd article in my msg

    This is a commentary by DAVID LIMBAUGH about Mel Gibson's very controversial movie regarding Christ's crucifixion. It, too, is well worth reading. MEL GIBSON'S passion for "THE PASSION":

    How ironic that when a movie producer takes artistic license with historical events, he is lionized as artistic, creative and brilliant, but when another takes special care to be true to the real-life story, he is vilified. Actor-producer Mel Gibson is discovering these truths the hard way as he is having difficulty finding a United States studio or distributor

    for his upcoming film, "The Passion," which depicts the last 12 hours of the life of Jesus Christ. Gibson co-wrote the script and financed, directed and produced the movie. For the script, he and his co-author relied on the New Testament Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, as well as the diaries of St. Anne Catherine Emmerich (1774-1824) and Mary of Agreda's "The City of God" Gibson doesn't want this to be like other sterilized religious epics.

    "I'm trying to! access the story on a very personal level and trying to be very real about it." So committed to realistically portraying what many would consider the most important half-day in the history of the universe, Gibson even shot the film in the Aramaic language of the period. In response to objections that viewers will not be able to understand that language, Gibson said, "Hopefully, I'll be able to transcend the language barriers with my visual storytelling; if I fail, I fail, but at least it'll be a monumental failure." To further insure the accuracy of the work, Gibson has enlisted the counsel of pastors and theologians, and has received rave reviews.

    Don Hodel, president of Focus on the Family, said, "I was very impressed. The movie is historically and theologically accurate." Ted Haggard, pastor of New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colo., and of the National Evangelical Association, glowed: "It conveys, more. Gibson, a devout Catholic, attended Mass every morning because "we had to be squeaky clean just working on this." From Gibson's perspective, this movie is not about Mel Gibson. It's bigger than he is. "I'm not a preacher, and I'm not a pastor," he said. "But I really feel my career was leading me to make this. The Holy Ghost was working through me on this film, and I was just directing traffic. I hope the film has the power to evangelize." Even before the release of the movie, scheduled for March 2004, Gibson is getting his wish. "Everyone who worked on this movie was changed. There were agnostics and Muslims on set converting to Christianity...[and] people being healed of diseases." Gibson wants people to understand through the movie, if they don't already, the incalculable influence Christ has had on the world. And he grasps that Christ is controversial precisely because of WHO HE IS, GOD incarnate. "And that's the point of my film really, to show all that

    turmoil around him politically and with religious leaders and the people, all because He is Who He is." Gibson is beginning to experience first hand just how controversial Christ is. Critics have not only speciously challenged the movie's authenticity, but have charged that it is disparaging to Jews, which Gibson vehemently denies. "This is not a Christian vs. Jewish thing. '[Jesus] came into the world, and it knew him not.' Looking at Christ's crucifixion, I look first at my own culpability in that." Jesuit Father William J. Fulco, who translated the script into Aramaic and Latin, said he saw no hint of anti-Semitism in the movie. Fulco added, "I would be aghast at any suggestion that Mel Gibson is anti-Semitic." Nevertheless, certain groups and some in the mainstream press have been very critical of Gibson's Passion."

    The New York Post's Andrea Peyser chided him: "There is still time, Mel, to tell the truth." Boston Globe columnist James Carroll denounced Gibson's literal reading of the biblical accounts. "Even a faithful repetition of the Gospel stories of the death of Jesus can do damage exactly because those sacred texts themselves carry the virus of Jew hatred," wrote Carroll. A group of Jewish and Christian academics has issued an 18-page report slamming all aspects of the film, including its undue emphasis on Christ's passion rather than "a broader vision." The report disapproves of the movie's treatment of Christ's passion as historical fact.

    The moral is that if you want the popular culture to laud your work on Christ, make sure it either depicts Him as a homosexual or as an everyday sinner with no particular redeeming value (literally). In our anti-Christian culture, the blasphemous "The Last Temptation of Christ" is celebrated and "The Passion" is condemned. But if this movie continues to affect people the way it is now, no amount of cultural opposition will suppress its force and its positive impact on lives everywhere. Mel Gibson is a model of faith and courage.


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    Mel has taken a lot of battering for this movie. Yet ever persisting in doing it. The more the commotion over it, the more popularity it is getting.

    Mel pumped some $25 million of his personal funds into this movie.

    Definetely a must see.


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    This is a must c. I saw summen on cnn or it was msnbc where the issue they had with the movie was that in the movie they blamed the jews for what happened to Christ. The problem they had with the movie was that it highlighted that fact. But didnt we already know this already??

    I might get flamed for this but ahh well.

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    According to the Bible, the Jews did denounce Jesus and preferred to have Barrabas freed. Did they really do that or were the Prophets who wrote the scriptures many decades after Jesus' death perhaps mistaken or prejudiced in any way. Their recollections of the whole incident may have gotten a bit blurry, given that the earlest accounts were written more than 40 years after.

    Is there a reason they would have Barrabas over Jesus. Perhaps they felt Barrabas made a greater attempt to free Israel from the Romans than Jesus. In those days many professed being the Messiah, to them there was nothing that would distinguish Jesus from any other magician claiming to be the true Saviour.

    It has been said that Jesus (Yeshua) was not a Jew, but an Essene (see Dead Sea Scrolls). Jesus' whereabouts before and after his twelvth year up to his 30th year is still a mystery. He may have been living with this sect. It's claimed that much of his teachings were taught by this sect many years before his birth.


    I found this book amazing: The Nazarene by Sholem Asch, Maurice Samuel (Translator), Herbert Lockyer

    http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...92007?v=glance

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    the Jew thing has gone a little too long in my estimation..

    so what if the Jews chose Barrabas.. it the DUMB A**ES (i'm just emotional) that decide to kill Jews simply because of that that need to be done away with...

    fact is Jesus HAD to be curcified.. so why go killing the people who did it?? ahhhh bwoy... i hate getting into this argument cuase its just soooooo... ILLOGICAL.

    i can see it now...

    Idiot: "Jesus is Lord and Saviour.. When I go anywhere I think .. WWJD (What would Jesus Do)? I am soooooo devout. The earth is the Lord's and the fulness thereof. God doesn't hate the people.. He hates the SIN of the people..."

    Jew walks by..

    Idiot: "There goes that [glow=red,1,300]&!**#*$*@[/glow] whose [glow=red,1,300]*&$^$@%%@*@)[/glow] foreparents killed my [glow=red,1,300]*&$^@$@&#[/glow] Saviour! DEATH TO JEWS!!!!!!"

    I mean.. come on man!


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