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    Default Re:How would You Respond If Someone Tried to Hack You???

    lol

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    Again Xenocrates is right about that matronyx, the more popular Operating Systems are hacked. Remember that even before Windows came into the mix, Unix server were primary targets for hackers, not even just Unix but IBM servers running AS400 and Telecom switches. Windows, Unix, Mac or Linux it can be hacked. If you want to make your box secure, don't turn it on.

    Even if you decide to turn Telnet and FTP off, once you can get access to a resource you still have an open port. The possibility of a user installing other applications like IMs any minor secuirity hole there it will be exploited.

    Remember when used get hacked through ICQ, or when the Chinese Hacker revolted and took out the linux and windows servers?

    Then a OS is as good as the person who made it.

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    Default Re:How would You Respond If Someone Tried to Hack You???

    i thought yur box was at home....
    soooo, is this a work thingy then? all me need is di ip man..... :P

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    Default Re:How would You Respond If Someone Tried to Hack You???

    [quote author=igodit link=board=1;threadid=1252;start=15#msg12151 date=1058446528]
    Again Xenocrates is right about that matronyx, the more popular Operating Systems are hacked. Remember that even before Windows came into the mix, Unix server were primary targets for hackers, not even just Unix but IBM servers running AS400 and Telecom switches. Windows, Unix, Mac or Linux it can be hacked. If you want to make your box secure, don't turn it on.

    Even if you decide to turn Telnet and FTP off, once you can get access to a resource you still have an open port. The possibility of a user installing other applications like IMs any minor secuirity hole there it will be exploited.

    Remember when used get hacked through ICQ, or when the Chinese Hacker revolted and took out the linux and windows servers?

    Then a OS is as good as the person who made it.
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    I agree with you 100% that every box connected the the internet can be hacked. However, what would you say is the most popular OS running online webservers? Deffinately not windows my friend :

    The current trend is to attack windows machines since these are more vulnerable. To day I was reading about more problems plagueing Win2003 server, I mean, comon....this thing was just released and branded as the best from M$ yet!!
    I guess this doesn't say zilch about the people who designed this OS ;D

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    Default Re:How would You Respond If Someone Tried to Hack You???

    i'll still give them some kudos. designing an OS is problably not an easy task. 8)

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    Matronyx, if you have been hacking a platform for 22 years, (1981-2003) odds are that no matter what new version comes out, it's only a matter of time before you worm your way in again. Don't get me wrong, I'm no big M$ advocate, but the fact of the matter is that the operating system has been with us for approimately 23 years now (if you count the DOSSHELL prototype that lead to Windows). Ever since the first Windows hack that was built on a Texas Instruments scientific calculator was released back in '81, hackers have only gotten better at it.

    If I were hacking Linux for 22 years, even if they came out with a Linux XP in 2025 A.D., I should be pretty proficient in getting in when that gets out. Furthermore, hackers aren't spending so much of their time on getting into webservers as they do getting into home desktop pcs. The reason for this is that the WIndows platform is:
    • Dead easy to hack. In fact, if you are using WinNT, 2000 or XP, it's ridiculously easy to get into another's PC without having administrative rights or using any hacking tools. You can use Windows to hack Windows - if you know what you're doing.
    • No matter how much security is on a Windows box, masking a TCP packet as an administrative WINS lookup will open doors to any Windows PC.
    • Windows comes with too many default settings that literally SCREAM "Rape Me". For example, do you know that Microsoft's implementation of TCP/IP leaves a few thousand ports open on your machine by default? Did you know that Windows doesn't even CHECK these ports unless you manually configure some software to do so?


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    That's why surfing the net without something like ZoneAlarm is a very stupid thing to do. With ZoneAlarm, I actually caught a trojan that snuck into my system via a cookie lookup from a site that was trying to send info out to the site before the page even loaded properly. I was able to circumvent the activity of the trojan (ZoneAlarm told me exactly where it was on my harddrive) so the Site's script crashed. The page didn't load.

    When I look at the JScript in the page (I can't believe the coder was that dumb) the page was creating an array of e-mail addresses for all the visitors to that site. Then it was writing a cookie to my HD with an expiration date set for the year 3001 AD.

    Matronyx, that's why there's a Windows update. These guys know how to get in and out of your system in half a flash. Now, hacking is even automated.

    Why waste time hacking a server when you can steal e-mail addresses from your visitors? How do you think so many porn sites have your e-mail? Hacking a webserver is not as lucrative as running your errands through other people's Windows PCs. Think about it. When you hack a server, chances are that the admin will find out and take the box offline. An offline server is no good to a hacker is it?

    HOWEVER....

    If you hack a PC which belongs to some old woman who only uses it to chat to her grandchildren across the world, who is not a techie, and couldn't care less about what is getting in and out of her system, who even if she saw a zonealarm warning that someone was running amok on her PC, do you think she would give a rat's behind? Most Home users wouldn't. Of the 85% of PC desktop users out there, a very tiny less than 1%, like you and me, would care and try to make a difference. They prolly won't get guys like us here. But they have so many more options to choose from (at least 800 million other PCs) that hacking a webserver is a waste of time.

    Let it be known (Since most people don't seem to know) Hackers primarily target webservers for bragging rights. Nothing more.

    By the way, be careful when you go looking for anything illegal on the net. All them sites are RIGGED to the teeth.

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    Default Re:How would You Respond If Someone Tried to Hack You???

    I second that

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    I must agree with you that the hacking of windows has gotten .... uhhh, "better" over the years. ;D
    True, this may well be said about UNIX systems too, but on a much smaller scale.
    Seeing that UNIX started in 1969, got it's popularity in the 70's, hackers surely have had time to exercise their intrusion skills.
    Wait a minute here??!! Let us examine this, UNIX was about long before M$. Hmmm, why is it easier to hack a winwoes box than a unix box? Is it because winwoes is more popular as a webserver than unix? Nope, we already cleared that up.
    Then, is it because people just hate M$ and so they hack anything that has a window on it ;D.
    Comon, that could never be the reason. The plan is to get paid here, or fame. No one get's fame from hacking a winwoes box ;D
    and it's a much larger paycheck if you can get into a large dbase with people's credit card info.

    The main reason why it's harder to hack a unix box than a winwoes box, simply boils down to who has the more secure system.

    Let us look into the large pool of websites that run unix/linux....
    what do we see....

    www.fbi.gov
    www.cia.gov
    www.nasa.gov
    www.mastercard.com
    www.citibank.com
    (rumors are that M$ runs linux/unix)

    Are we saying that just because these reputable sites run on a flavor of unix/linux that means such a system is better? Maybe not, but they didn't choose Wnidows2003 Server 8)

    Microsoft Windows has certainly come a long way, have delivered a wonderful product, and if it were not for this, we would never know the difference between secure and unsecure.

    What exactly do you second igodit?

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    Default Re:How would You Respond If Someone Tried to Hack You???

    do you remember when the fbi put a site up talking about security and how that particular site they put up was a good example of it?
    the following day the site was defaced with a bunch of chinese flags.
    lol....there is no security that tough.

    thats why the deterent isnt on anithacking sites so much as more on tracing the lil whizzkids.

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