Nintendo NX -Nintendo Switch

[owen]

You know how the media is when it comes to reviews, they'll complaint about everything before something comes out and when it comes out totally move on to come plain about something else. If the switch starts burning kids hands nintendo will have zero future for them to "future proof". Future proofing is a fools game, people thought the ps4 was future proof and now it has a "pro" version and a slim. There is room for a pro-switch but I doubt nintendo will fall to that low.

[BNOVA]

Yeah the media is like that but the concern is valid re the resolution in docked mode. If they used the newer Nvidia chip i don't expect them run it at full power when in handheld mode. I would expect them to hit their thermal and power targets with down clocking and still have a good enough visuals for hand held mode. However when docked I would expect the chip to ramp up appropriately for 1080p. They would not even need to go max clocks for this. But who knows really why they did not use it. Probably the same reason they did not go AMD this time around because up until a year ago even AMD thought they had won the contract.
It will be interesting to know what lead them to choose Nvidia over AMD in the future and also what is the cost breakdown of the system.

[owen]

Yes, they could have put a extra fan in the doc to compensate for the extra heat and power draw but I doubt ninty will every go down the route of focusing on power. The ps4/xbone burn as much electricity as gaming PC.

[owen]

Not to mention being both noisy and hot. Ps4/xbone one when for the lastest and greatest at launch then slimmed down to better tech once it became cheaper. Ninty ain't about the slim console life. Ninty consoles are slim from launch.

[owen]

The best comparison would be to imagine if Sony or ms had build this system; it would be a brick at launch, with over heating issues and cost 600$. The reviewer would focus on how pretty forza is and not even mention that the system sounds like a plane taking off. Knowing Sony they would have a proprietary Power cable, memory card and HDMI formate for anti piracy. MS would probably make all the games DLC

[Makkah]

The ps4/xbone burn as much electricity as gaming PC

I highly doubt that.

Not to mention being both noisy and hot. Ps4/xbone one when for the lastest and greatest at launch then slimmed down to better tech once it became cheaper. Ninty ain't about the slim console life. Ninty consoles are slim from launch.

The PS4 could be more silent, but it's not bothersome. Xbone is damn near silent. Nintendo revises and shrinks hardware every-so-often too: NES, SNES, GB Pocket, GBA SP, GBA Micro, Wii Mini.

I think it's important to point out that higher specs aren't only about graphics. They also affect physics, world size and density as well as other gameplay systems that may require a lot of memory (Shadow of Mordor's Nemesis system, and Dragon Age Inquisition's cut Keep content for example).

[owen]

The OG ps4 is hitting almost 140 watts. http://energyusecalculator.com/elect...ameconsole.htm

Higher specs are wasted on graphics in the majority of cases. The nemesis system doesn't require anything more complicated than a lookup list of stats that have been in RPGS since the snes. It's all graphics;
Draw distance, enemy count, rangdolls, dept of field, AA, high res textures, high poly counts, and fish
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4OFv9eWIKY


And with the rush to 4k systems are going to need even more power to make stuff look better and draw deeper. Even devs that released games on the 360 are complaining a yet the switch is faster than the 360 and yet devs are wondering if COD can run on the switch. Even the WII has MW3! The graphics looked worse but people still playing it

[Makkah]

PC power consumption can vary wildly, but a GTX 970 consumes 145 watts all by its lonesome.

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desk...specifications

The Nemesis System was bastardized on the PS/360 because they were underpowered

"To break it down, some of the stuff we're pretty confident will still be very similar on current gen: the core mechanics, like combat, stealth, ranged and movements; the basic control and gameplay, that should all be really solid. What it won't have is the same level of depth and variety and simulation within the 'Nemesis system'.

http://kotaku.com/shadow-of-mordor-i...les-1660387779


It's true that most resources go toward graphics, but things like enemy count (with decent AI) is good for gameplay too (Uncharted 4 did this). What you also have to take into consideration is that it's harder to cut assets down or create lower quality versions for a platform with an uncertain future. They tried with the Wii because of the install base, I suspect they are apprehensive about the Switch because of Nintendo's history of poor software attach rates.

[owen]

They have tricks like dynamic resolution and polygon, graphics settings that be adjusted without "downgrading" the assets. They just don't want to support any of the unpopular platforms - they'd have to setup additional teams which cut into profits. Because ps4/xbox are essentially the same they make more money just dropping stuff on those with minor changes.

[owen]

There is no money in supporting ninty platforms unless your game is really really good. If you put horizon zero dawn up against zelda:bow you would have no competition. The third parties know that ninty makes quality experiences and they also know that without the extra house power to bueatify their shallow games they simply would not be able to compete. They have to come good or stay away with their tired games.