Flow LTE

[psilos]

@Nathan77791, Wireless networks will always have throttling and/or data caps because of the finite capacity of the medium and the fact that its shared. The amount of cell tower equipment that would be required to ensure that all subscribers get ~45Mbps each all the time would be such a capital investment not to mention an eye sore, one cell tower alone filled with antennas would not be enough.

Its just physics. If you also add to that some users that will eventually abuse the shared network and be constantly maximizing their throughput all day and night the network will come to a screeching halt. The same can occur on a wired network, but at the end of the day wired networks have more capacity and hence they accommodate more users.

[GPRS Internet]

After sim change did you have to use new apn?

[Brandysull]

After sim change did you have to use new apn?

Nope... it's the same ppinternet APN. I had to reenter it because the SIM defaults to the postpaid APN (internet). Before I even adjusted the APN, the registered on 3G and went right up to LTE.

[Brandysull]

@Nathan77791, Wireless networks will always have throttling and/or data caps because of the finite capacity of the medium and the fact that its shared. The amount of cell tower equipment that would be required to ensure that all subscribers get ~45Mbps each all the time would be such a capital investment not to mention an eye sore, one cell tower alone filled with antennas would not be enough.

Its just physics. If you also add to that some users that will eventually abuse the shared network and be constantly maximizing their throughput all day and night the network will come to a screeching halt. The same can occur on a wired network, but at the end of the day wired networks have more capacity and hence they accommodate more users.

Quite so! FLOW is already actively managing the traffic on its LTE network. This was similar to how they managed traffic on their HSPA+ network before the May 2016 network reboot.

[Nathan77791]

@Nathan77791, Wireless networks will always have throttling and/or data caps because of the finite capacity of the medium and the fact that its shared. The amount of cell tower equipment that would be required to ensure that all subscribers get ~45Mbps each all the time would be such a capital investment not to mention an eye sore, one cell tower alone filled with antennas would not be enough.

Its just physics. If you also add to that some users that will eventually abuse the shared network and be constantly maximizing their throughput all day and night the network will come to a screeching halt. The same can occur on a wired network, but at the end of the day wired networks have more capacity and hence they accommodate more users.

Thanks for the explanation, I quite get the picture why they have to do this.

[876]

@Nathan77791, Wireless networks will always have throttling and/or data caps because of the finite capacity of the medium and the fact that its shared. The amount of cell tower equipment that would be required to ensure that all subscribers get ~45Mbps each all the time would be such a capital investment not to mention an eye sore, one cell tower alone filled with antennas would not be enough.

Its just physics. If you also add to that some users that will eventually abuse the shared network and be constantly maximizing their throughput all day and night the network will come to a screeching halt. The same can occur on a wired network, but at the end of the day wired networks have more capacity and hence they accommodate more users.

So how is caricel able to provide this with their few towers... They have a handful of towers in kingston so I wonder how they able to provide unlimited Internet

[psilos]

They have a limited amount of customers at this moment. If they had FLOW or Digicel's number of customers and "unlimited" data plans the network would collapse. By the way they are throttling as you have already discovered.

Well the speed issue was due to the throttling. They confirmed that the speeds at throttled at 7megs..saw them reply on their social media account so it's confirmed

[Brandysull]

Does anyone have Digicel LTE & FLOW LTE so we can do a comparison between both? Even though Digicel's network has had time to iron out its kinks, it wouldn't hurt to see how the networks compare, especially seeing that both networks have the same maximum theoretical speed (75 Mbit/s down and 25 Mbit/s up).

[khat17]

@Brandysull - I wonder if they going allow VoWiFi (VoIP) or VoLTE? Most likely the local criminals providers won't allow you the wireless option and bill you for VoLTE. Or remove the used data from your plan. Wicked set. Anyways.

[Brandysull]

@Brandysull - I wonder if they going allow VoWiFi (VoIP) or VoLTE? Most likely the local criminals providers won't allow you the wireless option and bill you for VoLTE. Or remove the used data from your plan. Wicked set. Anyways.

VoLTE & VoWiFi will be billed as regular voice calls. The part of the network that provides that functionality currently handles CSFB (which by the way FLOW has done so masterfully. When in good radio conditions, I never see 3G after the call, the device switches right up to LTE again. Kudos to those Ericsson engineers). VoLTE & VoWiFi are flagged by the network (and the device) as priority data (essential given the best effort data delivery (lossy) nature of regular VoIP which cannot be sensibly used as an apt replacement for rock-solid 2G voice and great call quality from AMR-WB on 3G - especially given mobile's increase in mission-critical applications) and as such, given its priority, will not be billed as data. Voice traffic on LTE is data but its given special privileges that other packets/data does not.