wtb high-end computer hardware? x99/z97

[cushman]

No... it was decreased to save power and is increased when needed. Again power saving and not overclocking. It is always running in spec and at stock clocks.

whether it a increase or decrease inside of the manufacturers spec it is overclocking.my understand of overclocking is when a chip is made to run at a particular value and it increase that value in any situation that is overclocking but u a make it seem like is only when u the user manually do it a that is the only time u can say it is being overclocked.

[Powpow]

whether it a increase or decrease inside of the manufacturers spec it is overclocking.my understand of overclocking is when a chip is made to run at a particular value and it increase that value in any situation that is overclocking but u a make it seem like is only when u the user manually do it a that is the only time u can say it is being overclocked.

Technically your correct as there are factory overclocks, example my current GTX 760 'Superclocked' boosts up to 1200 mhz flat on full load and only goes 1050 mhz and under with normal load and I haven't done any overclocking of my own on it cause seems EVGA already maxed that out for me already.

[pezz]

whether it a increase or decrease inside of the manufacturers spec it is overclocking.my understand of overclocking is when a chip is made to run at a particular value and it increase that value in any situation that is overclocking but u a make it seem like is only when u the user manually do it a that is the only time u can say it is being overclocked.

You have the wrong understanding of overclocking which is what I am trying to tell you.
When the user takes it out of spec or AIB partner it is overclocking. Like evga SC.

Yes thats exactly what I am saying. A chip doesnt overclock itself.

Technically your correct as there are factory overclocks, example my current GTX 760 'Superclocked' boosts up to 1200 mhz flat on full load and only goes 1050 mhz and under with normal load and I haven't done any overclocking of my own on it cause seems EVGA already maxed that out for me already.

That is different from what he is talking about. EVGA SC is out of Nvidia spec. So it is overclocked. He is calling power saving and temp features overclocking.

I am not sure what is so hard to understand. And he clearly overlooks that in AMD's case their gpu never ever goes over its base clock.

Does this simple topic need so many post?
Instead of keeping the gpu or cpu at it max frequency set by their makers it changes depending on load. How is that overclocking?

[Powpow]

I understand what your saying pezz, I was just agreeing with cushmans understanding of overclocking (except this part "whether it a increase or decrease inside of the manufacturers spec it is overclocking").

Decrease in manufacturers spec would be underclocking, which is the energy saving mode pezz is mentioning.

There are exceptions to the manufacturers spec with Nvidia and Intel, since they have GPU Boost and Turbo Boost respectively, which are optional overclocks from these manufacturers and as pezz said AMD does not have this option with their chips at this time.

[pezz]

I understand what your saying pezz, I was just agreeing with cushmans understanding of overclocking (except this part "whether it a increase or decrease inside of the manufacturers spec it is overclocking").

Decrease in manufacturers spec would be underclocking, which is the energy saving mode pezz is mentioning.

There are exceptions to the manufacturers spec with Nvidia and Intel, since they have GPU Boost and Turbo Boost respectively, which are optional overclocks from these manufacturers and as pezz said AMD does not have this option with their chips at this time.

Intel? No one alters Intel or AMD cpus. Both Intel and AMD has boost on CPU.

Back on topic. Advice to Cush is to build something cheaper right now. Not because there will be faster next year (duh).

But the technology will be outdated, this is the last of GDDR5 on highend gpu as an example.

For cpus 16nm is coming which will provide the real improvements for intel.

As for AMD I am ready to jump ship from their cpu, but like my advice to you i am taking... Its just not the right time to buy anything highend. Or I would be using an intel system now.

[cushman]

Intel? No one alters Intel or AMD cpus. Both Intel and AMD has boost on CPU.

Back on topic. Advice to Cush is to build something cheaper right now. Not because there will be faster next year (duh).

But the technology will be outdated, this is the last of GDDR5 on highend gpu as an example.

For cpus 16nm is coming which will provide the real improvements for intel.

As for AMD I am ready to jump ship from their cpu, but like my advice to you i am taking... Its just not the right time to buy anything highend. Or I would be using an intel system now.

u give good points as to y i shouldn't buy now thats kool but as i said i still will have to wait again to see reviews and testing before i buy.now bout the overclocking ting,so a chip can't overclock itself but it can downclock itself when there is an undesirable situation? and ur saying i have the wrong idea! how is it? whether it's in the oem or aib spec it is overclocking and wat r u saying about hard to understand wat amd and nvidia mean by boost clock? wat intel mean by turbo boost? my understanding of how a chip overclocks is when it's not running at it's base clock and when did i ever wrote that power saving and temp features is overclocking? the chips they build now r smart they sense there own demise and will try to prevent it thats y we get blue screens,that is to tell u that there's something wrong with ur hardware or software.big man ting pezz the buy cheap now and wait till next year a waste a mny and time it better u tell me say not to buy anything now.

[pezz]

u give good points as to y i shouldn't buy now thats kool but as i said i still will have to wait again to see reviews and testing before i buy.now bout the overclocking ting,so a chip can't overclock itself but it can downclock itself when there is an undesirable situation? and ur saying i have the wrong idea! how is it? whether it's in the oem or aib spec it is overclocking and wat r u saying about hard to understand wat amd and nvidia mean by boost clock? wat intel mean by turbo boost? my understanding of how a chip overclocks is when it's not running at it's base clock and when did i ever wrote that power saving and temp features is overclocking? the chips they build now r smart they sense there own demise and will try to prevent it thats y we get blue screens,that is to tell u that there's something wrong with ur hardware or software.big man ting pezz the buy cheap now and wait till next year a waste a mny and time it better u tell me say not to buy anything now.

Ok boss. Stick you what you know I will stick to what I know.

[cushman]

I understand what your saying pezz, I was just agreeing with cushmans understanding of overclocking (except this part "whether it a increase or decrease inside of the manufacturers spec it is overclocking").

Decrease in manufacturers spec would be underclocking, which is the energy saving mode pezz is mentioning.

There are exceptions to the manufacturers spec with Nvidia and Intel, since they have GPU Boost and Turbo Boost respectively, which are optional overclocks from these manufacturers and as pezz said AMD does not have this option with their chips at this time.

yes i know that is underclocking so u nu can pree wat i meant pow pow? amd don't have gpu boost but they do have turbo boost.

Ok boss. Stick you what you know I will stick to what I know.

don't be like that pezz we deh yah fi learn and share