wtb high-end computer hardware? x99/z97

[Powpow]

Oh Ok I thought you were building something new...

The R9 280x uses a 6pin and 8pin.... Not 2 8pins. Even if it did that would ensure the card have enough power for overclocking.

Why yuh even mention overclocking. More power plus more heat is not what he want to hear at all.

Thought he was going for an overkill system as well but looks like he still researching.

[pezz]

Why yuh even mention overclocking. More power plus more heat is not what he want to hear at all.

Thought he was going for an overkill system as well but looks like he still researching.

Overclocking is there to do if you want it. No one is being forced to overclock.

[Powpow]

Overclocking is there to do if you want it. No one is being forced to overclock.

Nor do you need to buy overclockable hardware for more if never planning to.

[gW33Zy]

Oh Ok I thought you were building something new...

The R9 280x uses a 6pin and 8pin.... Not 2 8pins. Even if it did that would ensure the card have enough power for overclocking.

As I mentioned, my power supply has both PCI-E power connectors on the same cable, kinda like how a lowercase "h" is shaped. Running a card like that, with a power supply like that would have been stupid. Also, I cant see the sense in overclocking, it overly stresses your components for an extra 5% boost in performance. The cost-benefit doesn't add up for 2 more frames per second.

Back on topic, a $3500 PC would be really silly at a time like now. With Intel, Nvidia and AMD making shifts to new architecture and fab processes. Right now its best to waits and see how Zen, HBM and Skylake pans out.

Right now, if you are going to spend $3500 on PC parts that will be old-gen in less than 3 months, you might as well buy something from Apple Inc.

[pezz]

Nor do you need to buy overclockable hardware for more if never planning to.

I am not sure what you are talking about or who suggested to anyone to buy overclockable hardware.

FYI all hard with a frequency can be overclocked. So again I dont know what you talking about.

As I mentioned, my power supply has both PCI-E power connectors on the same cable, kinda like how a lowercase "h" is shaped. Running a card like that, with a power supply like that would have been stupid. Also, I cant see the sense in overclocking, it overly stresses your components for an extra 5% boost in performance. The cost-benefit doesn't add up for 2 more frames per second.

Back on topic, a $3500 PC would be really silly at a time like now. With Intel, Nvidia and AMD making shifts to new architecture and fab processes. Right now its best to waits and see how Zen, HBM and Skylake pans out.

Right now, if you are going to spend $3500 on PC parts that will be old-gen in less than 3 months, you might as well buy something from Apple Inc.

Or Alienware.

[semitop]

yea i thought about the skylake and i even saw a review on them from china! overclocking the top tier sku to 5ghz and even 6+ghz! ddr4 is good low voltage higher speeds the z170 mobo's look beastly!,one thing i do notice is that alot of the skylake die is dedicated to intergrated graphics,looks more like a apu to me.x99 is a awesome plateform you get all the bells and whistles(m.2,40 pcie,lots of usb 3.0 and 3.1 sata 6&10gp/s and sata-e,ddr4 and 2 to 4 more cores over z97 top tier sku)the z97 chipset does have most of those tech though.the 5820k i believe is a awesome deal the 5960x too cause the ivy-bridge top tier had only 6 cores for the same price.for gpu yes am willing to spend over $500 on a gpu i looked at amd real hard because i rate them but their cpu's,apu's and gpu's consume alot of power.

They not in the high end for CPUs. Intels higher core count chips aren't awesome deals, they are the result of lack of competition since AMD went to APUs. But if cash is there then yeah only choice.

The high end GPUs use similar power. Tomshardware even has Fury X using less than 980Ti. If you plan to go multiGPU Fury X is also the way to go since it scales better and won't throttle due to water. Single 980ti ok for now or Fury (non-X)

Make sure you planning 1440p minimum monitor

[Powpow]

As I mentioned, my power supply has both PCI-E power connectors on the same cable, kinda like how a lowercase "h" is shaped. Running a card like that, with a power supply like that would have been stupid. Also, I cant see the sense in overclocking, it overly stresses your components for an extra 5% boost in performance. The cost-benefit doesn't add up for 2 more frames per second.

Back on topic, a $3500 PC would be really silly at a time like now. With Intel, Nvidia and AMD making shifts to new architecture and fab processes. Right now its best to waits and see how Zen, HBM and Skylake pans out.

Right now, if you are going to spend $3500 on PC parts that will be old-gen in less than 3 months, you might as well buy something from Apple Inc.

The only thing you usually have to change out in a new PC is the GPU more than anything else.

An example is the build I have in my signature with the i5 and 8 gigs of ram and intel SSD that I have had since 2012 and have changed my video card two times so far and waiting on the GTX 970 to arrive, as anything above that is for 4k gaming and I don't plan to do any 4k gaming anytime soon.

Course I did the upgrade when technology started going at a go slow, so there are periods when the upgrade is best and if I were looking to upgrade now I would definitely wait till Nvidia's Pascal release to do any other major update, which is actually next year.

[pezz]

The only thing you usually have to change out in a new PC is the GPU more than anything else.

An example is the build I have in my signature with the i5 and 8 gigs of ram and intel SSD that I have had since 2012 and have changed my video card two times so far and waiting on the GTX 970 to arrive, as anything above that is for 4k gaming and I don't plan to do any 4k gaming anytime soon.

Course I did the upgrade when technology started going at a go slow, so there are periods when the upgrade is best and if I were looking to upgrade now I would definitely wait till Nvidia's Pascal release to do any other major update, which is actually next year.

True. I am not upgrading anything until Nvidia and AMD release new stuff. Or I see massive price drops or get a deal on something.

My advise to Op is to build a $750 - $1000 machine and in 1.5 to 2 years spend $2500 and build something awesome.

[cushman]

That's roughly $3500 USD, yuh deh guh hard with budget though. Are you into STI simulations or CGI animation or something like that? Do you mind sharing your pcpartpicker parts list?

Mine is http://pcpartpicker.com/user/wzy/saved/ZmhxFT

dwl! i dont do non of that a just gaming and web surfing dwl! just tired of gaming on a crappy pc.crappy interms of that i cant get good fps at 720p or 1080p.http://pcpartpicker.com/user/kingpin/saved/#view=mbN7YJ
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/kingpin/saved/#view=3PF9TW
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/kingpin/saved/#view=jTYYcf
anyone of the above that fall in my budget a it me a go with.

Complete waste of money and by next year the $3500 hardware will be useless. It is a very bad time to spend so much cash on a machine considering the new technologies and new ways of doing things are on the way.

As for your parts list... You serious bruh?

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lol u rate amd dont? me rate them too enu!

You do realize peak wattage is hardly ever reached right? So buying stuff based on max power consumption is useless.

While you are doign your web dev stuff your cpu will never be maxed out. Please take not of that. Same for a video card. Different usage for different games.

While playing fifa my system uses 250watts and close to 300w.

While playing crysis is almost 400w.

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that is very good power consumtion for 2 r9 290,cpu and everything else in the machine.

According to my watt meter I am running at 287W playing modded Skyrim and 325W rendering a kitchen scene in V-Ray. So, I know a 500W Gold+ PSU is not going to reach 500W, but I remember running my 4850 and using inside my CPU case to keep food heated (no lie). You've had a 4890, you ought to know that card running at max adds 5+ degrees Celcius to a rooms ambient temperature.

When I bought my 960, the only thing the 280, the X version, and the 285 had over the GTX960 was the higher TDP values. Since, I bought my 960, the card's cooling fans have only turned on during a test of GPU rendering with V-Ray

Just remembered, my power supply only has one high amp rail for both PCI-E power leads. The 280X needed 2 8-pin power connections, I only had 1 8-pin and 1 6+2 pin on the same rail, the 960 only needed 1 6-pin connection. It is these little intricacies I use/worry about when picking parts for my PC

the thing about it is nvidia was suppose to launch the 800 series but they opt for the 900 series saying it was more power efficient of which they are.

Oh Ok I thought you were building something new...

The R9 280x uses a 6pin and 8pin.... Not 2 8pins. Even if it did that would ensure the card have enough power for overclocking.

the cards usually oc themselves when conditions are right same thing with cpu's and apu's so ocing your hardware is kinda like a thing of the past and mobo's help with ocing too.

As I mentioned, my power supply has both PCI-E power connectors on the same cable, kinda like how a lowercase "h" is shaped. Running a card like that, with a power supply like that would have been stupid. Also, I cant see the sense in overclocking, it overly stresses your components for an extra 5% boost in performance. The cost-benefit doesn't add up for 2 more frames per second.

Back on topic, a $3500 PC would be really silly at a time like now. With Intel, Nvidia and AMD making shifts to new architecture and fab processes. Right now its best to waits and see how Zen, HBM and Skylake pans out.

Right now, if you are going to spend $3500 on PC parts that will be old-gen in less than 3 months, you might as well buy something from Apple Inc.

apple! r u serious!? as to wat i wrote previously i know about most of the new architectures but them i would still have to wait and see the reviews and testing before i purchase.(remember the i7 4770k?).so the z97 and x99 plateform is already tested and proven samething with gpu's amd r9 series and nvidia 900 series

I am not sure what you are talking about or who suggested to anyone to buy overclockable hardware.

FYI all hard with a frequency can be overclocked. So again I dont know what you talking about.

Or Alienware.

alienware cut corners and use generic stuff so there's noway am buying any pre-built hardware from any company.

They not in the high end for CPUs. Intels higher core count chips aren't awesome deals, they are the result of lack of competition since AMD went to APUs. But if cash is there then yeah only choice.

The high end GPUs use similar power. Tomshardware even has Fury X using less than 980Ti. If you plan to go multiGPU Fury X is also the way to go since it scales better and won't throttle due to water. Single 980ti ok for now or Fury (non-X)

Make sure you planning 1440p minimum monitor

every review tech site uses different ways to test hardware and some of them are bias aswell,the 980ti is a downgraded titan x so yes i expected it to uses more power.heat wise with multi gpu also depends on your case and the placement of them on your mobo's pci-e lanes (spacing).i thought about aio water cooling and it's a no no cause their pumps have a high failure rate interms of mtbf rather a custom one with a d5 pump plus the different gpu manufacturers use high quality fans so their silent and have a very long life.

They not in the high end for CPUs. Intels higher core count chips aren't awesome deals, they are the result of lack of competition since AMD went to APUs. But if cash is there then yeah only choice.

The high end GPUs use similar power. Tomshardware even has Fury X using less than 980Ti. If you plan to go multiGPU Fury X is also the way to go since it scales better and won't throttle due to water. Single 980ti ok for now or Fury (non-X)

Make sure you planning 1440p minimum monitor

and nope not 1440p or g-sync a just str8 1080 144hz,and i have an idea of what ur gonna say but with a gpu like a 980 or a 980ti i can drive a 1080p monitor at those high refresh rates

The only thing you usually have to change out in a new PC is the GPU more than anything else.

An example is the build I have in my signature with the i5 and 8 gigs of ram and intel SSD that I have had since 2012 and have changed my video card two times so far and waiting on the GTX 970 to arrive, as anything above that is for 4k gaming and I don't plan to do any 4k gaming anytime soon.

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nvidia playing catch up with amd.pascal is the same gpu and mem tech like the fury x only more refined and more bandwidth.

True. I am not upgrading anything until Nvidia and AMD release new stuff. Or I see massive price drops or get a deal on something.

My advise to Op is to build a $750 - $1000 machine and in 1.5 to 2 years spend $2500 and build something awesome.

if am gonna do that i will always be waiting on new tech cause them gringo yah a that a them plan fi do every year tell u say new and better tech next year for u to shell out more green paper again u zeeme!.

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[pezz]

if am gonna do that i will always be waiting on new tech cause them gringo yah a that a them plan fi do every year tell u say new and better tech next year for u to shell out more green paper again u zeeme!.

You are missing the point. I am not telling you to wait. I am saying PC hardware is stagnant at the moment.

I myself love upgrading every 3 months.

People who bought i7 2600k got the best. Since then there has no been no real improvement in CPU performance.

But I am not telling you how to spend your money. Just saying it is a waste right now. You are gonna buy the top of the line stuff right now that isnt any faster than what was released 3 years ago.

nvidia playing catch up with amd.pascal is the same gpu and mem tech like the fury x only more refined and more bandwidth.

And AMD invented the HBM tech so they have first priority over HBM and HBM2.

the cards usually oc themselves when conditions are right same thing with cpu's and apu's so ocing your hardware is kinda like a thing of the past and mobo's help with ocing too.

The cards dont OC themselves... They have boost clock and AMD works Different from NVidia.

AMD has a maximum clock that then decreases if temp threshold is hit or power limit.

Nvidia Has a base clock that is minimum and boost to max boost clock if temps allow.

It is called throttling and is stock settings. Myself and others have overclocked beyond that.

dwl! i dont do non of that a just gaming and web surfing dwl! just tired of gaming on a crappy pc.crappy interms of that i cant get good fps at 720p or 1080p.http://pcpartpicker.com/user/kingpin/saved/#view=mbN7YJ
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/kingpin/saved/#view=3PF9TW
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/kingpin/saved/#view=jTYYcf
anyone of the above that fall in my budget a it me a go with.

Parts list isnt bad. Thats way less than $3500.