Which SmartPhone ?

[GPRS Internet]

I had the chance to play with the Sony Ericsson P910i the other day, and im still in shock ... the thing is damn near too good to be tru, im now definalty gonna have to get one ... and even at a price of 42k http://www.techjamaica.com/forums/images/smilies/eusa_doh.gif I think its worth every cent, if not more ... the phone makes the motorola Razor look like a toy ...

My question, is there any other phone on the market that even comes close to comparing to the P910 ?

[death_knight]

yo first off yute its good that you've seen the light secondly the razr was always a joke, i would give it to my dog as a chew toy "thats what i think of its functionality as a smartphone" i dont see the big hype about it. only thing it have going is that its slim but if you take a second and think about it where it gain its thinnes it gains in lateral dimension space, there for i can derive the equation [samsung s300 < under the pressure of a steamroller> = moto RAZR ] its as simple as that.

[Moni-Q]

I had the chance to play with the Sony Ericsson P910i the other day, and im still in shock ... the thing is damn near too good to be tru, im now definalty gonna have to get one ... and even at a price at 42k http://www.techjamaica.com/forums/images/smilies/eusa_doh.gif I think its worth every cent, if not more ... the phone makes the motorola Razor look like a toy ...

My question, is there any other phone on the market that even comes close to comparing to the P910 ?

Look into the Treo. Ive been using it for one week and Im in love. The things I can do with this thing...I wont even need a laptop anymore.

Besides, there is more software available for the Treo than for the P910.

[GPRS Internet]

Yup, razor is most definatly a gimmic .... the phone juss Lame ... both looks and features ......

The P910 on the other hand ... looks ... features ..... nothing can touch it. truss mi, you know the ease it is the have a Phone/pda/mp3 player/digicam all in one device, and to add a very reasonable priced & sized device .... damn im obsessed with this phone :icon_mrgr :eusa_shif

[zandex]

The Treo 600 and 650 are indeed excellent phones. Equipped with the PalmSource O/S 5, I personally think that this phone is much better than the Sony P910i. Please note that even though I am writing these good things about the Treo, I am still in love with the Windows Mobile O/S, I am just not in a position to locate any phone with running the Windows Mobile O/S with the various the features to match my life style.

For now I will stick with the Treo 600, until that dream phone comes around. (Oh! I will also have to wait for the reviews before buying that phone too, dont want to repeat the same mistake.)

I think if you take a look at the Treo power, you will say something else. By the way, please remember that the Symbian O/S still has a limited software library and this will be so for several years.

Within the next 2 years, there will only be two big players, PalmSource (linux) and Windows Mobile. Make sure that your investment is worth the effort you are doing now.

Oh! for the records, I have invested in both Palm and PocketPC. I have also tried several Pocket PC PDA and one Pocket Phone Edition (crap) from HP. I love the Pocket PC feeling and will always love it.

[MiTcHiE]

Nobody said the v3 was a smart phone, its a clear fashion phone and nothing else. Any device with windows os would be spectacular and have loads of apps. The pocket pcs that I have played with make me feel like I am using my pc. Same apps, same os.

Used a treo once, seemed decent still. Great screen, great abundance of apps because its palm os, all in all a great device. Only thing the p910 might be lacking is wifi capability which most other pocket pcs come with. Check out this Qtek 9090 (http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-blue-angel-en.shtml) Digicel now offers this beauty. This is buy far better than a p910i.

Class: smartphone
Position in the range: above HTC Himalaya
Rivals: Motorola MPx, Sony Ericsson p910
Operational system: Windows Mobile 2003 SE for Pocket PC Phone Edition
Processor: Intel XScale PXA263 400 MHz
GSM 900/1800/1900, GPRS Class B, multislot class 10 ( switched to class 8)
RAM: 128 Mb (125.77 Mb available for the user)
Available flash-memory: 43.26 Mb
Inerfaces: SD/MMC slot with SDIO, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, IrDA
Display: 3.5” with the resolution of 320x240 pixels, 65 colors
Built-in VGA camera, a possibility to record video
Battery: removable Li-Ion of 1490 mAh capacity
Dimensions: 125x71.6x18.7 mm (170 mm – length in the opened mode)
Weight: 212 g.

[zandex]

The Qtek 9090 currently cost over $60,000 at Digicel stores, on special order. While I would love to have one, come on...I cant afford that type of price tag.

The phones which are in the same category as the Sony P910i are

- Treo 600 (no bluetooth) / 650 (Palm O/S)
- Motorola MPx - (Windows O/S)
- Siemens SX66 "
- Qtek 9090 "
- HP Ipaq 6500 with GPS

Now you can pick and refuse...

[GPRS Internet]

Look into the Treo. Ive been using it for one week and Im in love. The things I can do with this thing...I wont even need a laptop anymore.

Besides, there is more software available for the Treo than for the P910.

O yeah, i totally forgot about the Treo ... its also hype, but it has 2 characteristices which i really dont want in a phone ..
1) It has and antenna .. lol, and now its minor, but i just hate phones with antennas
2) In all fairness it isnt as sleek as the p910 in that the 910 with the flip closed looks like you ordinary phone, open flip and it transforms into a pda :icon_cool

about the software issue remember the p910 is fairly new, so give it some time im sure there be allot of apps available for it, as i see this phone talking over the world ... muahahaha :p

The phone :eusa_danc

http://www.sonyericsson.com/images/spgc/CWS31AFW_11139high_28_0_4000.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v717/Wiggy05/SE.jpg

[MiTcHiE]

The amount I have seen so far. Loads on money in Jamaica. Plus the P910 is pretty expensive too.

[zandex]

I see your heart is set on the Sony P910i. But have you really used one of those device? Have you tried a Treo 600 before?

If your plans is to the PDA feature on that unit, I am warning you from now, the keyboard sucks... By the way, Sony is in the process of designing a device without the flip keyboard, so they are following the rest of the world (late as per usual).

I will be reviewing the Qtek 9090, however I dont want to purchase one and end up in the same problem as before.

[MiTcHiE]

I used one today, and I was like a young boy with a new toy. I just wanted to run away with it. I will post my likes and dislikes soon.

[zandex]

I used one today, and I was like a young boy with a new toy. I just wanted to run away with it. I will post my likes and dislikes soon.

Please do that soon. I would also want to know if I can use it too? I want to test it out before I buy it. Maybe I can also sell my Treo 600 and add some more cash to the pot.

[MiTcHiE]

U will need at add alot to the pot, I will never spend car money to buy this. Try get it second hand.

[zandex]

Mitchie, for the Qtek 9090 can you say where the person got it and the cost? Another thing, is it locked to the Digicel network? I really dont want it if this is the case, since I cant afford to be online present Digicel cost for GPRS.

I just called around some Digicel stores and was given various stories about the unit. No one really had a copy in stock and wanted a very large deposit before I could see one...

[MiTcHiE]

Well they have links still. If u get it from Digi then more than likely it will be locked.

[GPRS Internet]

I see your heart is set on the Sony P910i. But have you really used one of those device? Have you tried a Treo 600 before?

If your plans is to the PDA feature on that unit, I am warning you from now, the keyboard sucks... By the way, Sony is in the process of designing a device without the flip keyboard, so they are following the rest of the world (late as per usual).

I will be reviewing the Qtek 9090, however I dont want to purchase one and end up in the same problem as before.

I juss checked out the Qtek, not bad, but the price tag way too step, truss mi there is a big difference between 60k and 40k .... The looks of the Qtek kinda draws me away from it ... it is too much on the PDA side, i dont see my self walking around with a bulky PDA at ma ears :icon_roll

I used the P910 for the weekend, there was no probs, well the only prob is that it wasnt mine :icon_conf .....You are warning about the keyboard on the p910, are you talkin about the one on the flip or both the one on the flip plus the on screen one ???

Im gonna check out these now :icon_cool
- Motorola MPx - (Windows O/S)
- Siemens SX66

[zandex]

Please note that these new PDA/Phones you dont put at your ears...Bluetooth headset!

For the Sony P910i holding the phone by the flip down keyboard was extremely difficult for me. However since you have used it over the weekend, I guess it felt ok for you.

Since you are in love with the device, make a list of things you want from any Smartphone and start your comparision and elimination process.

[GPRS Internet]

Please note that these new PDA/Phones you dont put at your ears...Bluetooth headset!

LOL LOL I hate bluetooth headsets too, hahah , they look to geeky for me ... lol

[zandex]

Bluetooth headset and Wireless USB are the future. So you might not like them now, but they are indeed inevitable.

[GPRS Internet]

I really dont want it if this is the case, since I cant afford to be online present Digicel cost for GPRS.



The p910 i was using had gprs on it for free .. hehe :icon_lol: another reason you have to love Sony Ericsson :icon_mrgr

[zandex]

I was about to buy the Sony P910i last week, but I changed my mind at the last minute and purchase the Treo 600 instead. I would recommend that you take a second look at the Treo and review thousands of applications for it..you will never get that with your P910i..

Another thing, I can tell you that you will find several limitations (as I did) with the P910i. If you are a real hardcore techie, then the P910i will fall short of your expectations.

[GPRS Internet]

For the Sony P910i holding the phone by the flip down keyboard was extremely difficult for me. However since you have used it over the weekend, I guess it felt ok for you.

Since you are in love with the device, make a list of things you want from any Smartphone and start your comparision and elimination process.

http://www.mobilmania.cz/Files/Obrazky/art16/P910//24.jpg

OK, here is the thing ,,, if you hold the phone like in the pic above at first its gonna feel about unortodox, but after a while youll get use to it .... or you can right off the bat, hold the phone in the middle with one hand and type with the other , that feels allot better, but you tend to type slower using one hand ...

Well so far the P910 tops my list ... Treo second ... Not feeling the Qtek or the Motorola MPx ... the Siemens SX66 i not goin eevn comment on that , lol, DONT LIKE IT.

Gonna basically go thru now and compare the p910 vs the Treo now

[GPRS Internet]

I was about to buy the Sony P910i last week, but I changed my mind at the last minute and purchase the Treo 600 instead. I would recommend that you take a second look at the Treo and review thousands of applications for it..you will never get that with your P910i..

Another thing, I can tell you that you will find several limitations (as I did) with the P910i. If you are a real hardcore techie, then the P910i will fall short of your expectations.

Seen, i read allot of reviews online for the p910 .. basically that the only drawback i saw, limited apps ... but SE amoung others are saying after time more apps will be made available ...

BTW, how much the Treo Cost ???

[zandex]

You go right ahead and do that. However it would have been nice and more interesting if you had a Treo 600 to work with.

[Moni-Q]

Seen, i read allot of reviews online for the p910 .. basically that the only drawback i saw, limited apps ... but SE amoung others are saying after time more apps will be made available ...

BTW, how much the Treo Cost ???

Straight from C&W its about 44g I think. If you are lucky enough to get a 'like new' used one you may be able to save 20-25g.

[GPRS Internet]

You go right ahead and do that. However it would have been nice and more interesting if you had a Treo 600 to work with.


OK, heres a tought, ill get a Treo to use on C&W and the P910i to use on Digi :icon_mrgr :icon_mrgr :icon_mrgr everybody happy ...

o ok ,,, 44k ... hmm, both phones in the same price range ... stuff like this i like to get new out the box, unless i 100% know for sure the used one will be as good as new :icon_cool

[zandex]

OK, heres a tought, ill get a Treo to use on C&W and the P910i to use on Digi :icon_mrgr :icon_mrgr :icon_mrgr everybody happy ...

o ok ,,, 44k ... hmm, both phones in the same price range ... stuff like this i like to get new out the box, unless i 100% know for sure the used one will be as good as new :icon_cool

I can get a used Treo 600 still under warranty for CW (purchased 3 months ago) for around $18,000.00

So you can save roughly around $26,000, maybe you can invest that change into something.

[GPRS Internet]

Well, by Comparison, the P910 is in the lead

http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=622&idPhone1=846

[zandex]

Stop using Website to compare the two devices. You will have to see them side by side. Install and load the various programmes on both of them, well for the Sony P910i there is not much.

From my little experience and knowledge, the Treo is a much superior smartphone over the Sony P910i. However if you feel compeled to buy the Sony P910i be my guest. Dont come crying to me later.

[GPRS Internet]

I can get a used Treo 600 still under warranty from CW (purchased 3 months ago) for around $18,000.00

So you can save roughly around $26,000, maybe you can invest that change into something.

Good stuff Zandex ... that would be a whole lotta savings, . any idea if Digi has similar offerings for the p910 ??

[GPRS Internet]

Stop using Website to compare the two devices. You will have to see them side by side. Install and load the various programmes on both of them, well for the Sony P910i there is not much.

From my little experience and knowledge, the Treo is a much superior smartphone over the Sony P910i. However if you feel compeled to buy the Sony P910i be my guest. Dont come crying to me later.

I know, i dont live by online comparisons, i just use them as a benchmark ...... Im wondering if i can go into a C&W mobile office and prolly play around with one ....

[zandex]

Good stuff Zandex ... that would be a whole lotta savings, . any idea if Digi has similar offerings for the p910 ??
Correction to a previous statement, the phone is not directly from CW. Instead it is on the CW network with warranty.

[GPRS Internet]

Correction to a previous statement, the phone is not directly from CW. Instead it is on the CW network with warranty.

O i see ... ok, who would provide the phone then ?

[death_knight]

k first off i'm a p800 owner, and from using the p910 for the first time i realized that its a must have phone i really feel like i might be upgrading, but not ne time soon cause i'm not spending that much money on it but i mean currently all the things that i want to do on a mobile device i can do from the p800, i got my instant messaging client for msn, yahoo, icq, aim working fine on cable and wireless as digicel really trying to rip off people I got opera for my html browsing [ poston techja from the bus or while not able to use ma laptop at a particular moment in time ]. and i play ma mp3's view pictures read documents [ word, xl, pdf. txt ]. i got all the wi fi i need on my p800 a 100ft blue tooth dongle and have the internet access [ wi fi at imp ] routed through a laptop to the phone via the bluetooth dongle. video recording with sound [ phillips camcoder ] so basically i find no problem with a p800, there are apps that can do most of the things that you need done.

the treo just never really draw ma attention still.

[zandex]

I can arrange that if you are interested. Still I will leave you to compare, compare and wait more comparison..I tell, you can compare from not till a morning, the Sony P910i cannot beat the Treo 600. Once again, if you love the feel and look of the Sony P910i then go ahead and purchase it if you are completely satisfied.

[death_knight]

the qteck by the way is way too much money and i'ld never spend so much money on a phone. EVER. i mean i'm looking on it like i payed 13k for my p800 and i'm probably not gonna buy a p910i very soon either unless i'm getting it at a price under 20k or free, which is quite unlikely right now so guess i'm with ma p800 for a while.

[zandex]

k first off i'm a p800 owner, and from using the p910 for the first time i realized that its a must have phone i really feel like i might be upgrading, but not ne time soon cause i'm not spending that much money on it but i mean currently all the things that i want to do on a mobile device i can do from the p800, i got my instant messaging client for msn, yahoo, icq, aim working fine on cable and wireless as digicel really trying to rip off people I got opera for my html browsing [ poston techja from the bus or while not able to use ma laptop at a particular moment in time ]. and i play ma mp3's view pictures read documents [ word, xl, pdf. txt ]. i got all the wi fi i need on my p800 a 100ft blue tooth dongle and have the internet access [ wi fi at imp ] routed through a laptop to the phone via the bluetooth dongle. video recording with sound [ phillips camcoder ] so basically i find no problem with a p800, there are apps that can do most of the things that you need done.

the treo just never really draw ma attention still.
Thats great, but I know that the Treo is much better than the Sony P800, P900, P910i and all the Ps put together. Again thats my experience from working with those various units.

[GPRS Internet]

if you love the feel and look of the Sony P910i then go ahead and purchase it if you are completely satisfied.

Bileave me i was more than satisfied ... :icon_cool ... im up for giving the treo a test run non the less, but what if i like it .. then i goin haffi flip a coin or summin to decide which one to get :eusa_shif . o yah, the treo u have, its unlocked ???

[zandex]

the qteck by the way is way too much money and i'ld never spend so much money on a phone. EVER. i mean i'm looking on it like i payed 13k for my p800 and i'm probably not gonna buy a p910i very soon either unless i'm getting it at a price under 20k or free, which is quite unlikely right now so guess i'm with ma p800 for a while.
I understand your point. However there are individuals who are consider to be technology freaks. Gadgets, oh the latest must be in their hands no matter the cost or caused.

The price for a gadget is never a deterrent for someone who loves technology.

[zandex]

Bileave me i was more than satisfied ... :icon_cool ... im up for giving the treo a test run non the less, but what if i like it .. then i goin haffi flip a coin or summin to decide which one to get :eusa_shif . o yah, the treo u have, its unlocked ???
I believe its locked to CW for now. To change that you will have update the firmware with an available patch on the Internet, I have opted not to do so at the moment.

Since CW GPRS service is relatively good, I have decided to stick with it. If you want to use Digicel, then I would suggest staying with the decision to buy the Sony P910i. I am not sure if the Sony P910i is fully unlocked, but I guess since you were using the GPRS for free, then go right ahead.

I was not concentrating on the lock or unlock of these phone, but rather the features and capabilities of both.

[GPRS Internet]

the qteck by the way is way too much money and i'ld never spend so much money on a phone. EVER. i mean i'm looking on it like i payed 13k for my p800 and i'm probably not gonna buy a p910i very soon either unless i'm getting it at a price under 20k or free, which is quite unlikely right now so guess i'm with ma p800 for a while.

I can go buy the p910i 2mrw if i want ,,, but anyhow you look at it 42k is allot of money to spend on a phone ... but i dont feel so guitly becasue i know its allot more than a phone .... i gonna hold out abit longer, as im sure the price will drop somewhat ... i hope :eusa_pray

[zandex]

I can go buy the p910i 2mrw if i want ,,, but anyhow you look at it 42k is allot of money to spend on a phone ... but i dont feel so guitly becasue i know its allot more than a phone .... i gonna hold out abit longer, as im sure the price will drop somewhat ... i hope :eusa_pray
I thought you were serious about getting your Smartphone., boy I was wrong. Well take your time and make up your mind for the right choice....Treo 600 or Qtek 9090. lol

The price will not fall much until Digicel having a big birthday promotion in April 2005. Another thing to make price drop is an introduction of another Smartphone by the same company, which I believe will not happen until the end of this year.

[Moni-Q]

The price for a gadget is never a deterrent for someone who loves technology.

Take Note: This is how 'those among us' who 'roll deep' can afford to speak.

;)

[death_knight]

I thought you were serious about getting your Smartphone., boy I was wrong. Well take your time and make up your mind for the right choice....Treo 600 or Qtek 9090. lol

The price will not fall much until Digicel having a big birthday promotion in April 2005. Another thing to make price drop is an introduction of another Smartphone by the same company, which I believe will not happen until the end of this year.

so why the right choice automatically excludes the p910i. huh!!!!!.
and next thing i dont know bout ya'll but i really dont see why i need my phone to doo all of the things my laptop and pc will be able to do the only thingi need it for was the stuff i put in to my post, yo the p910i is more than enough and .sis apps for the symbian os are growing at a very rapid / exponential rate so dont worry bout it at all.

[GPRS Internet]

I thought you were serious about getting your Smartphone., boy I was wrong. Well take your time and make up your mind for the right choice....Treo 600 or Qtek 9090. lol

The price will not fall much until Digicel having a big birthday promotion in April 2005. Another thing to make price drop is an introduction of another Smartphone by the same company, which I believe will not happen until the end of this year.

Come on man, April is just around the corner . lol ....

Ok, so lemmi get this str8, does Digi offer the treo ??
Also is the Qtek readily available on digi As we speak ??

[death_knight]

Take Note: This is how 'those among us' who 'roll deep' can afford to speak.

;)


yo you zimmie moni-Q a that me deh ya a seh as you see i clearly outline i spent 13k on myp8 and if it was even 2k abovei wouldn't have bought it, i had a ngage i got that for 7k ireally not into spending soo much funds on a phone. not at all.

[GPRS Internet]

so why the right choice automatically excludes the p910i. huh!!!!!.
and next thing i dont know bout ya'll but i really dont see why i need my phone to doo all of the things my laptop and pc will be able to do the only thingi need it for was the stuff i put in to my post, yo the p910i is more than enough and .sis apps for the symbian os are growing at a very rapid / exponential rate so dont worry bout it at all.

:eusa_clap :eusa_clap lol, same thing me a seh to, him mentions that the treo has thousands of apps .. lol, i dont even use thosands of apps on ma PC much less .... dont get me wrong, thats a good thing ... but i dont really want a device that will be overkill, or one that i haffi insure (wink wink qtek) :icon_cool

[Moni-Q]

I can go buy the p910i 2mrw if i want ,,, but anyhow you look at it 42k is allot of money to spend on a phone ... but i dont feel so guitly becasue i know its allot more than a phone .... i gonna hold out abit longer, as im sure the price will drop somewhat ... i hope :eusa_pray

You see, that's the thing, I am almost offended when people look at the Treo and refer to it as a 'phone', with comments like "how yu phone so big, mek mi seet" :eusa_hand . I prefer to think of it as 'a powerful, pocket-sized laptop replacement, that also happens to make and receive phone calls'. If you have real use for such a device then it doesnt seem quite so expensive anymore, not when you think about what it can really do for your productivity, and depending on the field you are in, your peace of mind as well.

The P910 is admittedly sexier, but Ive had my share of sexy cell phones and PDAs. I'm now on a deeper level, where its 'brain over beauty', besides the Treo is kinda sexy himself.

That said, I spent nowhere near 42k for mine. You see...I'm not one of those who...roll deep.

[zandex]

yo you zimmie moni-Q a that me deh ya a seh as you see i clearly outline i spent 13k on myp8 and if it was even 2k abovei wouldn't have bought it, i had a ngage i got that for 7k ireally not into spending soo much funds on a phone. not at all.
These are not just any phones, they are the future of communication. Smartphones (SP) are here to stay. I believe if you have the disposable income to purchase a SP, then go right ahead, it will surely let you feel better.

I have friends (like Cultus) who have given up their regular deadbeat phone and enter into the world of combo, yeah right, Phone > PDA for devices like Sony P910i and PDA/Phone like the Treo.

Note: Sony P910i it is first a regular phone with some PDA capabilities
Treo on the other hand if both a powerful phone and superb PDA.

Now I am still searching for that right Windows Mobile, so I will say nothing in that category.

[GPRS Internet]

yo you zimmie moni-Q a that me deh ya a seh as you see i clearly outline i spent 13k on myp8 and if it was even 2k abovei wouldn't have bought it, i had a ngage i got that for 7k ireally not into spending soo much funds on a phone. not at all.

I only refer to it as a Phone becase thats the initial use, and we buying it from a phone company

Hehehe, remember Deathnight, its not just a " phone " as in hello and goodby :icon_mrgr calculate how much money youd spend if you bought

1) Decent Cell phone
2) Fairly Decent Digicam (With Video capabilites)
3) Decent MP3 Player
4) Fairly Decent PDA

Right there we looking at over 70k :eusa_sick and even so, say you get all those dirt cheap ...... you see your self walking around with all those divices . lol

Not me :icon_mrgr I rather spend the 42k and call it a day :eusa_danc

[GPRS Internet]

That said, I spent nowhere near 42k for mine. You see...I'm not one of those who...roll deep.


HAHAHAH ., part of the reason i nu buy the P910 yet, almost sure i can get it for dirt cheap :eusa_booh

[zandex]

I know for sure that both the Treo and Qtek 9090 (untested) would put the Sony P910i to shame. The Symbian O/S is just a weak operating system, that is still in the making.

Now for me, the order in which I prefer my Smartphone O/Ss are

- Windows Mobile
- PalmSource
- Symbian

It would therefore means that my recommendations will give preference to devices running the Windows Mobile. Since there are no good devices available that I have tested with the Windows Mobile, the next automatic choice is the PalmSource - PalmOne Treo.

[BlaqMale]

i've messed around with a p910 b4, wouldn't mind trying out the treo, i also checked the link for the qtek but found the FSC Pocket LOOX 610 BT more interesting and all i have to say about all these smartphones is that they are way too big for me to be comfortable with. i would love something that's the size of a t610/630 with the front being all screen and stylus only operated with all the other bells and whistles

[BlaqMale]

i guess a motorola mpx (220?) is more my style

[GPRS Internet]

I know for sure that both the Treo and Qtek 9090 (untested) would put the Sony P910i to shame.

Fair enough, but dont you think the P910 is still a fairly decent and well worth the money device .....

is like camparing a BMW and a Lexus .. we all know the Bimmer put the Lexus to shame ... but at the same time, the Lexus still a decent car :eusa_danc

zandex, you were even at the point where you almost bought a P910, so you must have had allot of ratings towards it .. come on man dont :eusa_liar

:icon_mrgr :icon_mrgr

[zandex]

i guess a motorola mpx (220?) is more my style
We are talking about two different type of Smartphones. You have smartphone with and without QWERTY keyboard. Once you implement a keyboard inside of a phone then you should expect a size increase.

There are candle-bar Smartphones, like the Audiovox SMT5000, MPx220, Sony K750i just to name a few. However you will not see a QWERTY keyboard on these.

If you are looking for a keyboard on your Smartphone, then you must turn to the Qtek 9090, BenQ 50, Samsung i730, Motorola Mpx and the HP 6500 Messenger Mobile - All running Windows Mobile

Treo 600, Treo 650 - All running Palm O/S

Sony P910i, Nokia 9200 Communicator - All running Symbian O/S

The size of these Smartphones will increase once you include the following

- Keyboard
- WiFi
- GPS

[GPRS Internet]

i've messed around with a p910 b4, wouldn't mind trying out the treo, i also checked the link for the qtek but found the FSC Pocket LOOX 610 BT more interesting and all i have to say about all these smartphones is that they are way too big for me to be comfortable with. i would love something that's the size of a t610/630 with the front being all screen and stylus only operated with all the other bells and whistles

In all fairness the p910 is not that much bigger than the t610 . i also dont want a big bulky device .. but the p910 is right at home for me.

the phone is just too sexy :p :p

http://www.myetoys.com/bluetooth/upload/2004_07/040716211079244.jpg

http://www.symmobile.com/img_p910/p910-2-small.jpg

[zandex]

Fair enough, but dont you think the P910 is still a fairly decent and well worth the money device .....

is like camparing a BMW and a Lexus .. we all know the Bimmer put the Lexus to shame ... but at the same time, the Lexus still a decent car :eusa_danc

zandex, you were even at the point where you almost bought a P910, so you must have had allot of ratings towards it .. come on man dont :eusa_liar

:icon_mrgr :icon_mrgr
Yes I totally agree with you. Please note that because of my own personally experience and preferences, I would not purchase the P910i over the Treo or Qtek 9090 (still to test)

I really like the Sony P910i and since I have been using Sony's phones (T68i $20K) over two years nowo I must give them credit. Most of my gadgets are Sony, however I think for me I wanted more, and that can only come from Windows Mobile or PalmSource.

Still Sony products are solid and excellent...

Note: The Sony P910i currently cost $42,250 + GCT, which is $48587.50.

[GPRS Internet]

Yes I totally agree with you. Please note that because of my own personally experience and preferences, I would not purchase the P910i over the Treo or Qtek 9090 (still to test)

I really like the Sony P910i and since I have been using Sony's phones (T68i $20K) over two years nowo I must give them credit. Most of my gadgets are Sony, however I think for me I wanted more, and that can only come from Windows Mobile or PalmSource.

Still Sony products are solid and excellent...


Good Stuff :icon_cool

Another thing i must ask, i hear smart phones can be hit by viruses, and a few in the US have been hit ... are there any antivirus apps availiable for these phones ... and have you heard of any in Jamaica gettin hit by any viruses ?

[zandex]

Good Stuff :icon_cool

Another thing i must ask, i hear smart phones can be hit by viruses, and a few in the US have been hit ... are there any antivirus apps availiable for these phones ... and have you heard of any in Jamaica gettin hit by any viruses ?
Yes that is correct. Viruses have made their way over to the phone world now. http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/mobile/0,39020360,39182857,00.htm

There are antiviruses available from leading vendors. However just like anything else, you must put things in place to safe guard yourself.

Since you will be on the Internet with your phone, be careful of the Website you visit. Limit downloads to the phone itself and ensure that you have also an updated Antivirus on the host computer that will be part of the sync process with the Smartphone.

As it relates to Jamaica, I have not heard of any outbreak of virus attacks on phones. I will still keep an extra ear out for this subject matter.

[GPRS Internet]

Yes that is correct. Viruses have made their way over to the phone world now. There are antiviruses available from leading vendors. However just like anything else, you must put things in place to safe guard yourself.

Since you will be on the Internet with your phone, be careful of the Website you visit. Limit downloads to the phone itself and ensure that you have also an updated Antivirus on the host computer that will be part of the sync process with the Smartphone.

Seen :icon_cool



I really looking at the 3 phones qtek/treo/P910

The P910 seems to be the only one that was built taking into consideration that the phone would be the main device .. hence the size and layout of it , they then further added the additional divices ..

But lookin at the Treo and qtek it seems to be the opposite. the phones seems the rank last on the list , even more so in the qtek ... its jsut a device with the added bonus of a phone ..... but i can definately see where they will appeal to allot of people :icon_cool

[zandex]

The p910 i was using had gprs on it for free .. hehe :icon_lol: another reason you have to love Sony Ericsson :icon_mrgr
Clearly this means that there is a bug with the Digicel network. According to their Online document and what I know of the company, they will charge for both WAP and WEB access with the exception of their own local site -- Digicelvibes

http://www.digiceljamaica.com/products/WebFAQsforGPRS.pdf

I would not bank on this one for too long. If there is a charge for something, you cant get around it for very long.

[GPRS Internet]

its just a Sony Erisson thing with the Freeness .... :eusa_ange

[GPRS Internet]

Damn Near went and bought the phone today ... but i was told by the Dealer that soon enough there will be speacials on those phones... so i goin hold out a bit more ... i also called a few dealers here in mobay non has or had the treo in stock.


yah yah, ignore the fact that i call it a phone . lol ....

[zandex]

Damn Near went and bought the phone today ... but i was told by the Dealer that soon enough there will be speacials on those phones... so i goin hold out a bit more ... i also called a few dealers here in mobay non has or had the treo in stock.


yah yah, ignore the fact that i call it a phone . lol ....
I hope you will get this phone at a good price, like half (1/2) cost, which I believe will not be possible. I would also encourage you to try and locate a Treo or Qtek 9090 and compare prior to your purchase.

[GPRS Internet]

I hope you will get this phone at a good price, like half (1/2) cost, which I believe will not be possible. I would also encourage you to try and locate a Treo or Qtek 9090 and compare prior to your purchase.

Qtek out of the Picture , even if i gettin it dirt cheap i still wouldnt get one, well maybe, then id sell it for full value .... :icon_cool

This is a toss up between the P910 and the Treo .... and my mind set on the P910 so most likely i goin end up with that .... truss mi, if they take half off they wont half enough to sell, people will be buying them let right and center ... :icon_cool

[GPRS Internet]

Wondering if i should try gettin the p910 online .. i seeing it unlocked on Ebay for $400+ us bid ..... $600+ instant purchase

:eusa_shif

Hmmm, i think i could also get it at a corparate discount price out here. they pffer 30% off to companies on the list, just need to find somebody who on the list :icon_cool

[Cultus]

Ok Ok Ok.....I can't believe I really missed this Thread...Zandex you have done an excellent job given the fact that you are a hardcore microsoft man...an dem even paying you...you have indeed advocated your thoughts very fairly and unbiased. Now the Treo God is here...infact the gadget God is here....who knows about gadgets like Cultus huh.....I'm jus kiddin you all......but here is my take. The P910i : this is a smartphone for the average user who just wants to check emails, browse the web, look at some pics and listen to music, as well as do some audio/video recording, and do it with little or now Tech knowledge, thats the target market for the P910i. The Treo 600/650: this smartphone is for the hardcore techie who wants his smartphone to do everything. if you are looking for the perfect laptop replacement then the Treo is for you. These are some of my daily activities done on my Treo 600.
1) Browse the Internet (webpro)
2) Check Emails (webpro for webmail (snappermail for pop)
3) Upload files and updates to my ftp site (ezftp)
4) Zip and Unzip files for eazy ftp upload (HandZipper)
5) Watch movies (avi, mpg, mpeg, mov, mp4) (Kinoma Player)
6) Listen mp3's, wav, wma etc (pockettunes)
7) Chat on Msn, yahoo, AIM, ICQ etc (Verichat)
8) Play Nintendo Games and Super NES games (Emulator)
9) Record Sound files and Rec Movies with sound (soundrec and movie rec)
10) Access, create, edit all microsoft documents in their native format (documents to go)
11) Access my PC remotely (very slow on gprs though but it works) (Palm VNC)
12)Plus tons of other stuff...because I have a crap load of palm apps.
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So to some it up. if you want true techie power buy a Treo. If you want basic techie usability buy theP910i..... The Treo is not for the faint of heart but only for those who want true hardcore Techie Power.....so buy what fits your needs and lifestyle......
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The thing to note is there is a major disadvantage with the Palm Treo. If you are going to compare devices P910 and Treo right out of the box...then the p910 will win..reason being Palm does not bundle much apps with the Treo...the apps they give you are very crappy...take for example their mail client..it sucks...out of the box the Treo cannot rec audio or video..it cant even play mp3's.....The Treo out of the box is like a brand new computer...with only the operating system installed.....so if you are going to compare ...its best to do your comparisons...based on the capabilities of the device and not with what comes bundled........I am sure Moni-Q can testify to that and Zandex as well.....If you want this is to GPRS INTERNET......I could meet you at a mutual point and we can do comparisons together using my Treo...since its already loaded wiht apps.....well thats if you are in the New Kgn or Portmore Areas......so once again ...buy a device based on your needs...not based on other techies opinions....Moni-Q has stated that she purchased her Treo because its the perfect laptop replacement...thats the same reason why I purchased mine...and I think Zandex as well.....we are hardcore techies with hardcore needs and requirements...and sadly to say the P910i does not meet our requirements....I have used and tested a loaded P910i (loaded means all apps loaded) and it failed my personal requirements...I am not a biased Techie....I am coming from Pocket PC to Palm back to Pocket PC now back to Palm....I go with whatever device can meet my needs...and theP910i just dosent keep up with my lifestyle....now the Qtek 9090...as soon as I get the chance to I will be doing an intensive test...and if it supercedes the Treo...then I am definately sellingmy Treo and getting the Qtek 9090. But the Treo 650 is still left to be tested...huh Zandex...don't forget about the 650 (with BT)....anyways fellow Techies Later..........

[Cultus]

Now this is why I know that you cannot always use online comparisons to make a decision....because online comparisons tends to be biased towards a particular product. Take for eg this comparison http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=846&idPhone1=907 The Treo 650 is by far the superior phone in comparison to the P910.....take a good look at the specs on both devices....and tell me why is it that even with superior hardware and application availability...the Treo 650 is getting a lower rating than the P910.....it just goes to show that these comparisons are biased and not based on hard cold facts......its always best to do your own personal comparisons....with both devices in your hands....I wont forget the mistake Zandex made when purchasing that crappy pocketpc smartphone from HP......he destroyed it immediately....why...because we didn't get a chance to hold and test the device..before purchaseing it.....

[GPRS Internet]

Good Imput Cultus , you outlined a very good point ... i am really not a HARDCORE techie .... well not in every sence of the word .... for my needs the p910 is ideal & Satisfactory .... the Treo more and more is sounding like a good if not better option, but as i stated before it along with the qtek may be abit overkill for me at this point in time. its alwayz good to have the cuttin edge in technology, but i wouldnt feel satified having a decive and not using all the features, espeacilly if i paid a nice amount of money for it.

Im not in KGN, so linking you to test out the treo doenst look like and immidiate option :(

Maybe after i get the p910 and max out all the features in about a year then maybe i can think about goin all out and gettin a tru hardcore techie device..

But for now , P910 fi mi money :eusa_danc

[GPRS Internet]

Now this is why I know that you cannot always use online comparisons to make a decision....because online comparisons tends to be biased towards a particular product. Take for eg this comparison http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=846&idPhone1=907 The Treo 650 is by far the superior phone in comparison to the P910.....take a good look at the specs on both devices....and tell me why is it that even with superior hardware and application availability...the Treo 650 is getting a lower rating than the P910.....it just goes to show that these comparisons are biased and not based on hard cold facts......its always best to do your own personal comparisons....with both devices in your hands....I wont forget the mistake Zandex made when purchasing that crappy pocketpc smartphone from HP......he destroyed it immediately....why...because we didn't get a chance to hold and test the device..before purchaseing it.....

I wouldnt use bias .. id more say the p910 got better ratings because SE has a wider user base than Palm/treo .... I switched over to SE from Nokia longggg ago, and im almost sure every other device i get will be SE ...

It is hard for every single user to test each device side by side, so they will opt to vote or take favour to the divice which they have some form of experience with.

Biased is just kinda a harsh word in this kinda situation :eusa_naug

[Cultus]

Ok GPRS Internet....I totally respect your decision in getting the P910i.....I hope you have fun while still being productive using that device....and all your future devices...yes you are right on your last point made in your last post...I guess S.E. does have a wider user base in terms of the cell phone market...and since the p910 is more a cell phone than a strong pda then I will accept your point...

[raggy]

All of you guys have made very good points, even though most of us tend to be a bit biased and nothing is wrong with that. I will not compare a p910 with a treao 600 or 650 because i have never used a treo. I looked at the P910 and saw that it satisfied my needs and hence I went for it. i am no techie but I think it's a phone first and then a PDA or a phone with PDA funtionalities. It also has a camera and digi cam but those cant be compared to a digital camera and video camera. When you have a combo device, then you have to be prepared to give up something - you will not get the best of everything.

It's not a phone for the average cell phone user and it wont satisfy all the needs of someone who needs a lot of applications. The thing is, if it satisfy your needs - go for it, if it doesnt - then go for a whatever else does!

Now for my little piece of bias - I just LOVE the P910.

[MiTcHiE]

Well I have used the p910 and the Imate/qtek9090, and seen the treo in action. I understand why most people would like the Treo because of the abundance of apps and its use in various areas. If I were to choose based on features then it would have to be the imate/qtek 9090. It has Wifi, plus 2 diff methods for additional memory sd and mmc. And its not as big as it looks in the pics, I held it in my hand last night quite comfortably.
I think its kind of unfair to compare the p910 to the treo or the imate/qtek. If u want a phone then go for the p910.

@ cultus the ratings u lookng at on gsmarena I think they are average user ratings not typical ratings as such.

[GPRS Internet]

Even in the pics the Treo look to be a decent size i can be comfortable with...


Lawd that sound wrong up :eusa_wall

:p

[AMG4DVI]

Let me add another player to the muddle....if you know how...this this can be pretty damm powerful in the right hands...if you catch my drift.


Cellphone/ PDA/ Camera/ Portable Music/ Video Player/ DVB-H mobile digital TV - NOKIA 7710

* Touch screen
* Connect to the Internet with EGPRS or HSCSD
* Internet browser supports HTML/XHTML and Macromedia Flash 6
* Vibrant 65,536 color wide screen
* Megapixel camera (1152x864)
* Email (SMTP, POP3, IMAP4)
* Integrated handsfree & voice recorder
* Bluetooth technology (including audio)
* Personal Information Management: calendar, contacts, tasks, and more
* Word, Sheet, and Presentation Viewers; Word & Sheet converter
* Flight mode
* MP3 player with stereo audio
* Visual Radio
* 90 MB internal memory
* 128 MB MMC card


http://www.nokia.com/nokia/0,,65385,00.html

[GPRS Internet]

Hehehe, Too bad i switch from nokia, and ill never go back .. muahahahaha :icon_cool :icon_cool

It fairly decent still :eusa_clap

[Cultus]

Nokia is figthting a losing battle...their days are numbered....them betta start running PocketPC or Palm OS to stay in the competition....

[GPRS Internet]

Anybody haev any reviews on the Moto A1010 ... it seems to be on allot of peoples wishlist.

Also the p915/p1000 is said to soon hit the market

" It’s not entirely clear whether it’s going to be called the P915 or the P1000, but it is said to have a 320x240 QVGA resolution display, WiFi, and Bluetooth. Best part: instead of the keyboard flipping down, which caused some, ahem, ergonomic issues with the P910, the keyboard on the P915/P91000 is supposed to remain in a fixed position just underneath the screen (similar to the Treo 650). Or something along those lines. Whatever they’re calling it, this one could be announced as early as Tuesday. "

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000513033563/

LOL, SE wants to be like Treo :icon_mrgr

[Cultus]

Everybody seems to be imitating the design form factor of the wonderful Treo...ahh bwoy...what would the world be without the Trend Setters

[zandex]

The final verdict, buy whatever fits your personal lifestyle...argument done!

Signing off.

[Cultus]

The final verdict, buy whatever fits your personal lifestyle...argument done!

Signing off.Exactly Zandex....there is no two way about it either....Treo for me Pee910 for you.....perfectly respectable.....

[GPRS Internet]

here is the sad thing ... the same treo you guys so dearly back and stand by, youll get rid of it in a heartbeat to get the qtek .. lol ... then your views about the treo will change " well the treo was good, but it fell short for me in allot of areas, and allot of features were missing, hence why im selling it dirt cheap and gettin a qtek" :p come on guys stand by your treo to the end :icon_cool

pee910 .. hahaha ... Im so gettin one :eusa_danc

[Moni-Q]

here is the sad thing ... the same treo you guys so dearly back and stand by, youll get rid of it in a heartbeat the get the qtek .. lol ... come on guys stand by your treo to the end :icon_cool

pee910 .. hahaha ... Im so gettin one :eusa_danc

I didn't say I had any undying loyalty. I work with what works for me...and right now that's the Treo.

[GPRS Internet]

I didn't say I had any undying loyalty. I work with what works for me...and right now that's the Treo.

OK, in other words you soon Jump ship them .. lol :icon_cool

S.E. To the end .. :icon_cool

:icon_mrgr

[GPRS Internet]

Question : whats next on the Horizon for the Treo .. does anybody have any info about their Upcoming models, and if it will rack up to the competition :icon_lol: *cough cough ... QTEK ... cough cough* :eusa_whis

[Moni-Q]

8) Play Nintendo Games and Super NES games (Emulator)


You got a direct link to this?

[Cultus]

You got a direct link to this?check your PM ok...and then link me on msn

[zandex]

here is the sad thing ... the same treo you guys so dearly back and stand by, youll get rid of it in a heartbeat to get the qtek .. lol ... then your views about the treo will change " well the treo was good, but it fell short for me in allot of areas, and allot of features were missing, hence why im selling it dirt cheap and gettin a qtek" :p come on guys stand by your treo to the end :icon_cool

pee910 .. hahaha ... Im so gettin one :eusa_danc
You really getting to me with your pity attitude for the Sony P910i. Without doubt you have spoken like a young techie, in other words an individual who is young in the technology field.

I have been in this field for the past 10 years, and I have embraced various technology and also dismiss many. In this field you are given a choice to pick and refuse from a wide variety of selection. There is no loyalty that exist in the IT industry, even those one might enjoy using one product over another. However if something better comes that can increase your productivity and lower your TCO (Total cost of ownership) then you will have to change.

I wonder if you have a clear understanding of what I am trying to say ...Anyway I hope you do.

[Cultus]

here is the sad thing ... the same treo you guys so dearly back and stand by, youll get rid of it in a heartbeat to get the qtek .. lol ... then your views about the treo will change " well the treo was good, but it fell short for me in allot of areas, and allot of features were missing, hence why im selling it dirt cheap and gettin a qtek" :p come on guys stand by your treo to the end :icon_cool

pee910 .. hahaha ... Im so gettin one :eusa_dancCome on man...lets debate this like grown adults....I personally use whatever works for me. back in the days when I had my iPAQ & T68i, that worked for me...when I made the switch to Palm OS afterwards...I never once made or posted any bad comments about the iPAQ or T68i....so what you are saying about making bad comments after selling a device is utterly nonsense...maybe you are like that...but I am a Techie that uses the best and most current technology available to me, then I move on to something new..thats just the life of a True Techie...we buy use, test, and then sell.....repeating the cycle each time......

[zandex]

Question : whats next on the Horizon for the Treo .. does anybody have any info about their Upcoming models, and if it will rack up to the competition :icon_lol: *cough cough ... QTEK ... cough cough* :eusa_whis
You asked about whats next for the Treo. Remember our discussion in this thread is about the Treo 600 and "the phone" Sony P910i. PalmOne recently released two new version of this successful device. These are the Treo 650 (CDMA) and Treo 650 (GSM). Can you for a moment imagine the extended power of this beast over its predecessor? Well if you cant, then you need to speak to us for this conclusion.

haha...you are just a kid to the technology world..Anyway, welcome my son..You need to roll deep with the big players.

[GPRS Internet]

Loosen up guys .. you taking this too serious :p i juss messing around :icon_cool no need to get personal you old techies . lol

As for the Treo, i was more intersted in knowing if there was something on the horizon after the 650 ...

and why do you think i have a pity attitude with the p910 ( :icon_mrgr damn i love that device)

I guess this alls boils down to money :eusa_danc those who roll deep have it nice. unlike poor young broke pocket me :eusa_wall

[Cultus]

I'm hearing rumours of a Treo 670....as soon as info becomes avliable I'll post it...Hey we just messing around with you too man....no pun intended...

[Cultus]

Loosen up guys .. you taking this too serious :p i juss messing around :icon_cool no need to get personal you old techies . lol

Zandex Old fo real .....him need fi retire now and give us young Techies a break....Zandex you bout 56 Y.O. right...you need to read the thread about maintaining you techie edge :D:D:D

[zandex]

Zandex Old fo real .....him need fi retire now and give us young Techies a break....Zandex you bout 56 Y.O. right...you need to read the thread about maintaining you techie edge :D:D:D
Treo and Qtek are Powerful devices...

Wisdom is power...You only get wisdom from experience.. Experience only comes from years..So I guess there are clear advantages of being old in the industry..

[GPRS Internet]

I'm hearing rumours of a Treo 670....as soon as info becomes avliable I'll post it...Hey we just messing around with you too man....no pun intended...

Seen Seen, as soon as you get any word, dun know, mek sure you buss it :icon_cool

[GPRS Internet]

Wisdom is power...You only get wisdom from experience.. Experience only comes from years..So I guess there are clear advantages of being old in the industry..

You have no idea how much respect i have for "old" techies .... casue when i get old i goin still be a techie .. hehe ... always good to see "old" guys still in the game :)

Treo and Qtek are Powerful devices...

But for how long ,,, and once again you selectively left out the Pee910 . lol :icon_cool

[GPRS Internet]

Will i be able the use a USB Bluetooth Dongle to wirelessly share a dsl connection from pc to use on the p910, or the treo ???

[Technoboy]

Damn...zandex is determined to steer you CLEAR from the SE. I'm an SE fan so you know where I stand...but maybe you could also check www.gsmarena.com and check out the smartphone offerings from Motorola.

[zandex]

Will i be able the use a USB Bluetooth Dongle to wirelessly share a dsl connection from pc to use on the p910, or the treo ???
Even if that was possible, you need to remember that both Infrared and Bluetooth transmit at the same speed --slow . To take advantage of that high speed DSL connection, you will need to use WiFi, and the only devices equipped with that are those running the Pocket PC software for now. So the Qtek 9090 and Qtek 2020, also you can look at other Pocket PC/Smartphone editions.

[zandex]

Damn...zandex is determined to steer you CLEAR from the SE. I'm an SE fan so you know where I stand...but maybe you could also check www.gsmarena.com and check out the smartphone offerings from Motorola.
Please dont get me wrong, I too love Sony Ericsson. I can recall the days of having both a Sony phone and another one from Ericsson. Sony was really good on the design side, but extremely bad with the battery life. On the other hand, the opposite was for Ericsson, hence the merger of the two to form a really great company...Sony Ericsson.

I purchased the Sony T68i (The World Smartest Phone, 2 yrs ago) and this was unlocked. I do still have this phone, as a matter of fact I have two of them now. I am waiting to replace it, however I have not found anything that can.

During my time of waiting for the right replacement, I have decided to try several other phones. So I bought the HP 6315 running Pocket PC Edition, this turn out to be totally crap to me. I also followed Cultus and purchase a Treo 600 for now. As mentioned before, I was also looking at the Sony P910i, but found that it was limited to my personal lifestyle..

So my history in phone is this...Nokia <To> Sony > Ericsson > Panasonic > Nokia > Sony Ericsson > Sagem > Sony Ericsson...then I am now using the Treo 600

I love technology and will always invest to get only the best from it.

[GPRS Internet]

Even if that was possible, you need to remember that both Infrared and Bluetooth transmit at the same speed --slow . To take advantage of that high speed DSL connection, you will need to use WiFi, and the only devices equipped with that are those running the Pocket PC software for now. So the Qtek 9090 and Qtek 2020, also you can look at other Pocket PC/Smartphone editions.


OK,, so thats a no then, its not possible ?

Speed is not really an issue, just wanted to know if it could work

[GPRS Internet]

I purchased the Sony T68i (The World Smartest Phone, 2 yrs ago) and this was unlocked. I do still have this phone, as a matter of fact I have two of them now. I am waiting to replace it, however I have not found anything that can.



Im suprised you have'nt found a replacement :eusa_doh:


So my history in phone is this...Nokia <To> Sony > Ericsson > Panasonic > Nokia > Sony Ericsson > Sagem > Sony Ericsson...then I am now using the Treo 600


Am i reading correctly ..... SAGEM :eusa_sick :eusa_sick

[zandex]

Yes it is possible to browse the Internet via the bluetooth connection on your computer. I have done this with my Pocket PC, however speed was of main concern to me.

[zandex]

Man At the rate I am going, I tried almost all the big name phones, and new comers too.

- Nokia
- Sony
- Ericsson
- Sony Ericsson
- Panasonic
- Motorola
- Sagem
- HP
- PalmOne (Treo)

You just name it, I might have owned it before..So I am still looking for the right replacement. Please note I will indeed tell you all about it, whenever I get it..hopeful. :-)

[GPRS Internet]

Yes it is possible to browse the Internet via the bluetooth connection on your computer. I have done this with my Pocket PC, however speed was of main concern to me.

OK cool, thanks for clearing that up :icon_cool

Just needed an other alternative (free) other then digi gprs :eusa_wall

[GPRS Internet]

If phones are gettin so smart, when will i see a dual sim phone/mobile device ? :icon_roll

[zandex]

If phones are gettin so smart, when will i see a dual sim phone/mobile device ? :icon_roll
Phone being smart have nothing to do with dual SIM capabilities. You need to know that both the phone provider and carrier have signed agreement that allow them to subsidise the phone to the consumer.

There are phones now available with dual SIM, but the size is extremely large. There is no benefit having dual SIM for the phone carrier.

I know that Samsung now has phones that can work on two different networks, CDMA and GSM. Now having dual mode network phones make sense for the carrier.

[Moni-Q]

If phones are gettin so smart, when will i see a dual sim phone/mobile device ? :icon_roll

Now that I would be interested in seeing. I think there are already such phones still, but they are in first generation stage.

[GPRS Internet]

Phone being smart have nothing to do with dual SIM capabilities. You need to know that both the phone provider and carrier have signed agreement that allow them to subsidise the phone to the consumer.

There are phones now available with dual SIM, but the size is extremely large. There is no benefit having dual SIM for the phone carrier.

I know that Samsung now has phones that can work on two different networks, CDMA and GSM. Now having dual mode network phones make sense for the carrier.

Isnt the consumers needs more important than phone provider and carrier status blaah blah .. etc .....

I was just making a link in that all these smart phones on the market now and more to come, it would be good to have a dual sim feature built in and give us consumers a bit more freedom.

I know im not the only one who would benifit from dual Sim.


There are phones now available with dual SIM, but the size is extremely large
Can you list them , or provide a link please :icon_cool ...also a link for the dual network samsung :icon_cool

[zandex]

Here is some information for the Samsung phone. http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000443034567/

As it relates to the dual SIM, I cant locate that information now. Note that when I am talking about dual SIM capability, I mean real dual SIM. This means that the phone will ring on both chips.

[GPRS Internet]

Here is some information for the Samsung phone. http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000443034567/



Samsung looks good :icon_cool

As it relates to the dual SIM, I cant locate that information now. Note that when I am talking about dual SIM capability, I mean real dual SIM. This means that the phone will ring on both chips.

Yup, thats exactly what i meant .. i want to be able to stick say c&w & Digi sims in the phone .... incoming anybody call either number will get me ... and if i wanna make i call , i simple select which sim to send it from ... ofcourse the defalut would be ma main number ...

Yup, that would be to ideal smart phone for me :icon_cool

[zandex]

To get a phone like that you will have to pay full price. What I mean by this, no phone company would subside the cost for you to operate on two different provider. Normally carrier would reduced the cost of the phone and then sell or give it to their customers.

Now think here for a moment, if you got a phone from Digicel that can also connect to CW, what benefits are there for me (Digicel) if you do that. It thus then means, that you will have to buy the phone at full cost if you want to do such thing.

I now was ask the question, would you pay for it? So if a phone cost $800US, normally the carrier will sell it for $350 with a contract. Would you pay the full price of the phone?

[GPRS Internet]

Thats the whole idea ,,, i am cuttin the middle man out of this ... (c&w .. Digi .. etc ) i dont want the buy the phone from them cheap or at a ruduced rate .. i rather buy it str8 from the Phone manufacter at full cost .. then i stick which ever or both chips in there.

[zandex]

Now your pocket roll deep. :-)

For other millions of phone consumers, I dont think that they would agree with you. I guess the day with come when this will be an option for people with deep pockets like yourself.

[GPRS Internet]

:icon_mrgr :

Thats the thing i love with technology its gets cheaper and cheaper faster and faster .... only new technology cost money ... and i am the patient type ... i will wait for the price drop .. hahaha ... id a go buy the P910i long time ago .. but give it time ... im sure ill get it in the 18-22k region :eusa_danc

And mine you mek people actually think me pocket roll deep :eusa_sile my pocket deep yes , just that nothing in there to fill them :eusa_whis

[Moni-Q]

:icon_mrgr :

Thats the thing i love with technology its gets cheaper and cheaper faster and faster .... only new technology cost money ... and i am the patient type ... i will wait for the price drop .. hahaha ... id a go buy the P910i long time ago .. but give it time ... im sure ill get it in the 18-22k region :eusa_danc


New? Don't hold your breath. Holding one's breath for 6-8 months at a time may somehow result in death.

By the time you get a new P910 for that price from Digicel, the phone will have become so outdated that it won't seem so 'cool' to you anymore.

[zandex]

Very valid point Sister M...Preach it...tell him the word...Glory..

Now you cant be cheap and rolling with technology, it dont work like that..As a matter of fact, I hate an individual in the IT field who doesnt like to spend towards the cause.

Hold on...Please wait..I am looking for the name...I think they call people like these...cheapskate..:-)

[GPRS Internet]

New? Don't hold your breath. Holding one's breath for 6-8 months at a time may somehow result in death.

By the time you get a new P910 for that price from Digicel, the phone will have become so outdated that it won't seem so 'cool' to you anymore.

I doubt that ... you says im gettin it from degicel ;) and even so who says im gonna pay the full price ..

Ok whats worse ... you shell out 60k to buy a phone you love and the said phone suits all your needs ... 1month later the said phone drops to 20k

or

You see the 60k phone , knowing the market , you watch the price ... when it drops then you jump on it , keep in mind the said phone will still satisfly all you needs

[zandex]

Its not practical for a phone to drop from $60 > $20 within 1 month. I have been monitoring the phone market for over 6 years. Lets take the Sony T68i, I bought that phone over two years ago. It took Digicel also 1 1/2 years to reduce the cost to half price and finally to around $4500.00 6 months after that period.

[GPRS Internet]

Its not practical for a phone to drop from $60 > $20 within 1 month. I have been monitoring the phone market for over 6 years. Lets take the Sony T68i, I bought that phone over two years ago. It took Digicel also 1 1/2 years to reduce the cost to half price and finally to around $4500.00 6 months after that period.

Zandex ... cut the middle man out of this :eusa_wall you keep refering to digi etc ...

Let me give some better examples ... look in the for sale section on here ... SE k700i came out, this Dude wanted $850us for it :eusa_shif whitin days/weeks the price drop and drop and drop and drop ... now droped to nearly $200us if not lower ..

Same for the Treo .... i see dem in the there as low as $14k,

You want to know what does this ;) High rollers who need to be on the cutting edge buy these units fresh off the market for the ridiculoues starting prices .... use the unit for a short time .. either they are dis-satisfied or they see summin new ... in doin that they sell the unit dirt cheap .

Then, cheapskates like maself jump on it :icon_mrgr

[zandex]

The Treo 600 has been out for also two years, its successor is out, which is the Treo 650. So seeing the price for $14K is just someone getting a new toy and giving away the old. As it relates to your example of the Sony K700i, you also need to understand that it might have been an individual selling that phone. Note that no provider offered the phone at the time of that posting. In addition to this, the Sony K750i will be coming out, and as such it will automatically lower the cost of its predecessor -- Sony K700i.

[GPRS Internet]

All im saying , there is no need for me to fork out a load of cash for the latest technology when next week the price drop because something new comes out, i really have better things to spend my money on ...

I have nothing against people who do this, its just not my style, and it seems to be a waste of money.

[zandex]

Wow!! -- To embrace technology you will have to spend on it.. For all the time you spend talking on this thread, I thought you were a big spender...Boy I was wrong.

[GPRS Internet]

LOL, zandex, you are so missing the point :eusa_wall

Anyway, lemmi know when you ready to sell your Treo , i give you 10k for it :icon_mrgr

I dont want to be a big spender :eusa_naug instead i will remain being a wise spender :eusa_danc

[zandex]

Sorry my Treo is a goner...Just sold it today. As I said we are in HiTech and as such we live for the technology.

Sony for you, Treo for the rest of the group...Go .Treo Go..

Sit Sony P910i...Good boy...lol

[Moni-Q]

Sorry my Treo is a goner...Just sold it today. As I said we are in HiTech and as such we live for the technology.

Sony for you, Treo for the rest of the group...Go .Treo Go..

Sit Sony P910i...Good boy...lol

What do you have now?

[GPRS Internet]

Sorry my Treo is a goner...Just sold it today. As I said we are in HiTech and as such we live for the technology.

Sony for you, Treo for the rest of the group...Go .Treo Go..

Sit Sony P910i...Good boy...lol

:p :p

Well , based on wat cw mobile will be offering 2mrw , will help me to further decide .. if the offerings are good, id get a treo to use on there network ..

Why did you sell you treo . qtek time ?

[zandex]

I am back on the market, just like a bachelor...So I guess I will be looking at my various options...Do you have any suggestions?

I will be reviewing the Qtek 9090 with the option to purchase. However if it is locked to Digicel network, then I will not purchase it. I have decided not to purchase any Smartphone that is locked to a particular provider. I want to be able to use my Internet service from CW and not Digicel. The only way I will use Digicel, is whenever they stop charging for the KB of download...

Technology is like underwear to me...So I guess it must be changed regularly..else my skin will begin to start itching me.

[GPRS Internet]

Would the Treo 650 be an option for you ?

Im still wondering why you let go the Treo :eusa_shif how soon will you be gettin the qtek, i assume 2mrw ?

[zandex]

While the Treo 650 is an excellent PDA/Phone combination, I do believe some folks would consider that a bad option for me. I know that the Treo 650 is packed with all the goodies that I want, so that goes without saying.

However I am a loyalist to the Windows platform, and as such I have returned home. My first PDA/Phone was the HP 6315, which was not a good buy for me..I am hearing about the Qtek 9090 and I am very much interested...I also know about the Motorola MPX, which have been delayed until later this year...I guess whenever that is available I will surely look at it...

I am going shopping tomorrow for my next PDA/Phone, and I know the Sony P910i is at the bottom of the list..just kiddin..sorry I am serious. I am alsp eager to findout what next on the CW table, hope something good for me..then again I dont see them with any good PDA/Phone combination. I will surely be on the look out for the Qtek 9090, I want to touch her, hold her and tell her that I love her. But I cant do that unless I see her face to face.

[GPRS Internet]

I see what you saying ... but you selling the treo and not 100% sure on what your gonna get or how soon your gonna get it will amount to some amount of downtime for you without a PDA/Phone ... wont that affect your productivity ?

[zandex]

Until Cultus, I have a laptop that is loaded with all my productivity applications. I will not be travelling for the next month. Also I still have my smart phone --Sony T68i (smile)..that I use as a modem while on the road with my laptop via bluetooth. Without a doubt I believe I can wait for the right device that fits my lifestyle, I am hoping that this is the Qtek 9090. Already I hear some negative remarks about the battery life, this worries me a little bit. The biggest selling point for me whenever buying any gadget is the battery life, hope that fuel cell will be out before I depart this land.

[GPRS Internet]

Ok sir ... In all honesty it seems or sounds as the treo fell way short of your needs , to fact that youd give it up and be without a device .. and why you never tell me you were selling it, if the price was right id a take it from you :icon_cool

hope that fuel cell will be out before I depart this land

Thats Dandy, but before i leave this land i hope i hit the lotto big :eusa_pray

[zandex]

To tell you the truth, I have owned an Ipod (sold it via TJ), recently wanted to try out the Treo (sold it via TJ). I have decided to purchase the iRiver H10 MP3 as a replacement for the Ipod and a really good Pocket PC PDA/Phone (Qtek 9090) as a for the Treo replacement.

The main reason for this is the company that I am currently working at is a Microsoft shop, so in an effort to support them I have decided to use Microsoft powered products.

Microsoft powered devices

- Smartphones
- Pocket PCs - PDA
- Windows XP Media Center
- MSNTV
- Mouse (Can I say Mice?)
- Keyboards
- MP3 Players
- Game Controllers
- Xbox (Game Console)
- Wireless Access Point
- GPS (Global Position Satellite) device

I dont gamble, so winning the lotto is not on my ticket to success.

[GPRS Internet]

Fair Enuff Zandex :icon_cool

Im glad i made this post, i was a credit card swipe away from buying the P910i for 48k ,, twice :eusa_doh: dont know what i was thinking ,

To be honest the Treo is racking up to be a better option for me , as i really want to get rid of my V series moto i have on c&w and replace with a smartphone .. the Treo 650 im guessing gonna be in the 45+k price range , so im almost sure im gonna get a 600 and call it a day ....

questions about the 600 ..

How good is it as an MP3 Player
What quality Pics/Vids can i expect from the Cam
What is faster , operating via the touch screen with the stylus, or one hand navigation using the keypad.

Any body have a tro selling , let me know :icon_cool

[Cultus]

GPRS-INTERNET....Zandex sold the Treo because he is paid by Bill Gates ok...to make it plain and simple.....He holds a top level position at Microsoft Jamaica ok.....so how is that going to look...a microsoft employee walking into meetings with a Palm OS Device....you get the pic now....the Treo was the perfect device for him....but because of job obligations he had to part with it...which I totally respect....

[Cultus]

As soon as I can get him a top level job at PalmOne or PlamSource......he'll step back on the winning side....which he knows is PalmOne

[GPRS Internet]

GPRS-INTERNET....Zandex sold the Treo because he is paid by Bill Gates ok...to make it plain and simple.....He holds a top level position at Microsoft Jamaica ok.....so how is that going to look...a microsoft employee walking into meetings with a Palm OS Device....you get the pic now....the Treo was the perfect device for him....but because of job obligations he had to part with it...which I totally respect....

Well, it would have been hard for me to guess that :) but he made his post and outlined his situation clearly :icon_cool


CULTUS , be on standby, gonna link you for some apps when i get the 600 :icon_mrgr

[Cultus]

Yeah man...no prob...I can make your Treo do anything you want for you...when mi dun brain wash yuh .and set you up with Palm Apps.....you going to hate the PEE910 like poison:D:D

[zandex]

Yes the Treo 650 is much more superior than its sibling. Until CW has the Treo 650 I would not recommend anyone going out and buying it..Wait if you can.

As it relates to the Treo 600 questions.

You will be amazed at the powerful speaker on the Treo, it will blow you away. It is an superb MP3 player, you will also need to get yourself a 1GB SD card to load your music. The camera is so so..You need a lot of light for it to give you a good quality photo.
The Treo is design to be operated with only one hand, with the built in 5-way navigation button. Depending on what you are doing, you will use what is best for you. I like to write on the screen with the stylus and as such got an application that allow for that on the Treo. The Treo 600 by default does not permit handwriting because of the integrated keyboard.

[Moni-Q]

Well, it would have been hard for me to guess that :) but he made his post and outlined his situation clearly :icon_cool


CULTUS , be on standby, gonna link you for some apps when i get the 600 :icon_mrgr

Is that the sound of a convert?

[GPRS Internet]

Is that the sound of a convert?

:icon_mrgr

Nope , im not converting .... i will still have my SE on digi :eusa_danc

[zandex]

I think he is a little late, I just sold my Treo and I would have given him a real deal for all the chatting he has been doing on this thread.

Well, better luck next time...wait a minute..sound like I am promoting the lotto..hell no..

[GPRS Internet]

Yes the Treo 650 is much more superior than its sibling. Until CW has the Treo 650 I would not recommend anyone going out and buying it..Wait if you can.

As it relates to the Treo 600 questions.

You will be amazed at the powerful speaker on the Treo, it will blow you away. It is an superb MP3 player, you will also need to get yourself a 1GB SD card to load your music. The camera is so so..You need a lot of light for it to give you a good quality photo.
The Treo is design to be operated with only one hand, with the built in 5-way navigation button. Depending on what you are doing, you will use what is best for you. I like to write on the screen with the stylus and as such got an application that allow for that on the Treo. The Treo 600 by default does not permit handwriting because of the integrated keyboard.

I see they have the 650 on the CW site, so maybe they gonna offer it 2mrw ....

[zandex]

WOW! --- Cultus, sell your Treo 600 now!

I think you have a Treo 600 to buy...Mi sure know that Cultus will be buying that Treo 650 in the morning if CW has it..Maybe mi wi carry it inna mi pocket to those meetings since it is equipped with bluetooth, then will not figure out which fone mi using..smiling..

[Cultus]

I see they have the 650 on the CW site, so maybe they gonna offer it 2mrw ....What ....Treo 650 is on their site....hhhhmmmm it seems as if my dreams may be coming to past earlier than I thought....they said that they would not be offering the 650 until about the 3rd to last quarter of this year.....well if thats the case and they are going to offer it sooner....then my Treo 600 is up for sale.....starting Price 25K with tons of productivity apps, and 7 months warranty still remaining from C&W.......Damn and to think that I paid 56K for it.....I wonder what will be the starting price for the 650......matters not anyways.....whatever it is I'm still gonna roll deep and get it :D:D:D

[GPRS Internet]

I think he is a little late, I just sold my Treo and I would have given him a real deal for all the chatting he has been doing on this thread.

Well, better luck next time...wait a minute..sound like I am promoting the lotto..hell no..

Come on man, you call it chatting, i call it trying to get feedback ,,, remember the part about me being a wise spender, this is where it kicks in :icon_cool

Maybe i should rename this thread to Treo 600 :D

Also, would like to thank everyone for your imput, and keep the chatting ... a mean opinions coming ;)

[zandex]

I agree, bad choice of words...keep those opinions rolling deep.:-)

Are we sure that the Treo 650 is on the CW website? I saw the photo of a Treo 600 on bmobile site, but no details. I guess I must be looking at the wrong place.

Dont read too deep into this one, dont want anyone to be disappointed of their announcement.

[GPRS Internet]

Im sorry guys what i saw on the CW site is actually the 600 ( But Im almost sure i saw the 650 there yesterday and earlier today)

http://www.cwbmobile.com/myBeMobile/palm.html

My appologies :eusa_doh:

[Cultus]

Well I have not found anything.....relating to the Treo 650 on the bmobile site.....guess we juat have to wait and see what happens...

[zandex]

Cool..I hope that CW would get this unit before summer. Also they need to start carry some Windows Mobile devices on their network like their overseas counterparts.

[GPRS Internet]

Cultus, tell me something, im on the road allot .. and would love to keep updated with various websites ... meassage boards etc ... lets say techja, do you visit it on your Treo, and if so ... whats the experience like in reading and posting ... also what speeds am i to expect ?

[Cultus]

Cultus, tell me something, im on the road allot .. and would love to keep updated with various websites ... meassage boards etc ... lets say techja, do you visit it on your Treo, and if so ... whats the experience like in reading and posting ... also what speeds am i to expect ?I just demoed Zandex's Treo to the new owner...and he was amazed at the speed of the internet on it...To answer your question...The Treo comes with a default browser "Blazer".....it in my opinion is a slow browser...it renders web pages rather slowly and is sometimes unresponsive. But there is a browser called WebPro3.0. It is the fastest brower I have ever seen on a handheld. You get true dialup speed using Webpro to surf the Web on your Treo. Plus it has lots of advanced features to heighten your web experience on the Treo....I am making this post right now using WebPro....and the same way TechJa looks on my desktop...it the same way it looks in WebPro....so really there is no difference....just the size of the screen.....and even then you have handheld view mode to make everything fit on the screen perfectly.....BUT remember speed will vary based on the signal strenght of GPRS in your present area.......but browsing the web on the Treo is a great experience....

[GPRS Internet]

Ok, i assume your treo is on cw ?

as for the default apps you reffer to, which in a nutshell you say to be on the crappy side .. do they have to be left on the device when you install 3rd party, or can you trash all the default apps ?

I should be able to line up a 600 2mrw . if not, please let me know of any selling .... dun know, remember im a cheapskate :icon_cool

[Cultus]

Yes C&W ......Digicel has nothing to offer me right now but high call rates and expensive GPRS.....so until them start offering something better I'll stick with my Bmobile.....The default apps..cannot be uninstalled...they are built into the ROM of the device.....

[Moni-Q]

Ok, i assume your treo is on cw ?

as for the default apps you reffer to, which in a nutshell you say to be on the crappy side .. do they have to be left on the device when you install 3rd party, or can you trash all the default apps ?

I should be able to line up a 600 2mrw . if not, please let me know of any selling .... dun know, remember im a cheapskate :icon_cool

Isnt there one for sale on TechJa now?

[zandex]

Once you install WebPro on your Treo it will automatically becomes your default Web browser. In addition those built in apps that comes with the Treo are relatively small and does not impact on memory much. I installed over 30 power apps on the Treo and had 10MB. One programme was my dictionary (4MB) and another was my KJV bible (2MB) of memory.

[Moni-Q]

Once you install WebPro on your Treo it will automatically becomes your default Web browser. In addition those built in apps that comes with the Treo are relatively small and does not impact on memory much. I installed over 30 power apps on the Treo and had 10MB. One programme was my dictionary (4MB) and another was my KJV bible (2MB) of memory.

Speaking of dictionary, I need a good one. Please point me to the one you were using so I can have a look. Thanks.

[Cultus]

As I have said to Zandex...why waste 4mb of space for a dictionary...just launch webpro and goto www.dictionary.com its even better than a real dictionary....Hey GPRS-INTERNET...as Zandex said The built in apps are very small...and in general Palm OS Apps are very small apps....so 32MB on a Palm is equavalent to 64MB on a Pocket PC Device...not too sure about Symbian apps....given the fact that Symbian is still a young OS in development...

[GPRS Internet]

Isnt there one for sale on TechJa now?


Yup, apparently i know the guy selling it (Kirk) so i goin link him up 2mrw, hopefully its still available .. if not, i gonna have to look some more

[zandex]

While I like the idea of Internet, there are places I visit that does not have Internet signal (GPRS) and as such a dictionary installed on the device works fine.

Noah is the dictionary that I was using on the Treo, and it is really good. As a matter of fact, I have been using Noah from Palm III days..

[zandex]

Yup, apparently i know the guy selling it (Kirk) so i goin link him up 2mrw, hopefully its still available .. if not, i gonna have to look some more
That Treo from Kirk is sold! Read the caption on the thread.

[GPRS Internet]

That Treo from Kirk is sold! Read the caption on the thread.

O really, i missed the caption :( damnit.

BTW zandex, why do you recommend that we wait for the 650 to be avalible from cw . im seeing it online for $449us , woudlnt it make sence to buy one ?

Also, if i buy the 600 online. what model i need to get for it to work on cw ? without gettin an unlocked one ?

[zandex]

Who will honor your warranty outside of the US? I know that Cultus had a problem with his Treo and returned said to CW, all they did was to replace it. Now think about the same thing happening to you, list the trouble to get the device fixed moreover replaced.

The $449 price tag you are seeing is for the locked version to Cingular network. The unlock edition goes for $699 and you must have US credit card, not an international credit card with a US billing and shipping address.

[GPRS Internet]

Who will honor your warranty outside of the US? I know that Cultus had a problem with his Treo and returned said to CW, all they did was to replace it. Now think about the same thing happening to you, list the trouble to get the device fixed moreover replaced.

The $449 price tag you are seeing is for the locked version to Cingular network. The unlock edition goes for $699 and you must have US credit card, not an international credit card with a US billing and shipping address.

good point ..

Cultus had a prob you say :( what was the prob ?

Ok, you posted that you can get it for 18k ,,,, PM the detials as im intersted now :cool:

[Cultus]

My Treo refused to syncronize with my PC whenever I wanted to do a HotSync. That was my problem.....it was so convenient to just drop it off at the CW office in New Kgn...and let them fix it....just imagine if I had purchased it online....

[GPRS Internet]

OK, so they fixed it VS replacing it ?

[GPRS Internet]

Ok guys, i asked for this thread to be renamed ... :icon_cool

It should have a more general fell now :p


Respect Chris :icon_cool

[GPRS Internet]

For the 600 users that have the Kinoma Player, does it handle codec issue well when viewing avi/mpg/mpeg/mov/mp4, can i also view dviX.

In terms of e-mail how much storage am i looking at ... and if i get say the 1gb, can i default it to store all emails there ?

BTW, Zandex where did you buy your 600 ?

[Cultus]

Kinoma player playes all my movies including divx.....email (snappermail) can store emails on your SD Card...thats the way I do it. its easier for CW to replace the Treos rather than fixing them...

[GPRS Internet]

Yow , Cultus , hit me up on msn or something, i know where you can get a 650 out here, full warrenty, about 50k+

GUYS, i need a treo, unnu buss mi nu :eusa_pray

[Cultus]

@gprs internet ...tried sending you a PM but its saying that your inbox is full....

[GPRS Internet]

OK, try now, sent items was clogging it up ..

[GPRS Internet]

Got to use a New 600 today ... My word ... naw lie, its nice ... never used it for long , couple mins. i need one ASAP :icon_cool

[GPRS Internet]

O yeah, one thing i noticed, looks like the screen is gonna be hard to keep clean.

BTW, yaull notice which phone was dominant in the CW observer ads today :eusa_whis

[zandex]

O yeah, one thing i noticed, looks like the screen is gonna be hard to keep clean.

BTW, yaull notice which phone was dominant in the CW observer ads today :eusa_whis
Isnt it a shame my youth? CW is just in the process of promoting an old fone...shame on you CW..lol

Please note that Digicel had the P910i several months now...so that is no new..

[GPRS Internet]

Isnt it a shame my youth?new..

Its a shame i cant locate a 600 yet :( :( :(

[Cultus]

Be patient gprs internet....I'm sure alot of people will be selling them for little or nothing next month when the 650 is officially released here by C&W

[GPRS Internet]

Yup ,,, Who knows maybe i get a 650 .. :eusa_shhh

[zandex]

Yup ,,, Who knows maybe i get a 650 .. :eusa_shhh
You will need to roll deep to buy that Treo 650...lol..and knowing your empty pocket, I doubt that will work.

[Moni-Q]

Hey, GPRS internet, if you have an int'l credit card or access to one, see if you can catch this deal:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002BRJAG/qid=1110864196/sr=8-5/ref=pd_csp_5/104-4532755-3663912?v=glance&s=wireless&n=507846

$299 (WITHOUT service plan)

[zandex]

While that price looks tempting, you need to add some additional cost..

- Shipping to Miami $25.00
- Shipping to Jamaica (Mailpac) $15
- Pay Time for Dr. O - 38% of Total cost

---------------------

$30,000.00 for this Treo 600

[Moni-Q]

While that price looks tempting, you need to add some additional cost..

- Shipping to Miami $25.00
- Shipping to Jamaica (Mailpac) $15
- Pay Time for Dr. O - 38% of Total cost

---------------------

$30,000.00 for this Treo 600

It may not be quite that much. The last time I brought in a PDA of similar cost (last year) shipping (MailPac) + Customs was about $3,000 JA in total.

[zandex]

This is not a PDA, its a phone and attracts more custom fees.

[GPRS Internet]

Hey, GPRS internet, if you have an int'l credit card or access to one, see if you can catch this deal:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002BRJAG/qid=1110864196/sr=8-5/ref=pd_csp_5/104-4532755-3663912?v=glance&s=wireless&n=507846

$299 (WITHOUT service plan)

Thanks for the link ... but i think im gonna wait for peeps who are upgrading to the 650 ..... cultus treo is looking appealing to me now, and april just around the corner .... so most likey i goin tek it from him, or any other person once the price is right ... *coough 14k-18k*

Zandex .... Only way id go buy the 650 is if i come upon some easy money ... hehehe, doubt that will happen, gimmi a loan nu :eusa_pray

[GPRS Internet]

So yeah, back to the mighty treo, i was asking Moni-Q lastnight about apps ..

I wanna know if there is grafitti software available for it where i can draw or jot things down in realtime, like say quickly jot down a name and number , save it then later when i get home i can then enter it on ma address book. I could do this with my Clie , this is a feature i really need, please tell me it available for the treo.

[zandex]

So yeah, back to the mighty treo, i was asking Moni-Q lastnight about apps ..

I wanna know if there is grafitti software available for it where i can draw or jot things down in realtime, like say quickly jot down a name and number , save it then later when i get home i can then enter it on ma address book. I could do this with my Clie , this is a feature i really need, please tell me it available for the treo.
Man its the Treo..That is possible and there are apps available for Jotting things on the screen. Just visit www.mytreo.net for all your apps.

[GPRS Internet]

Seen Seen, cant wait :icon_mrgr

Whats battery Life like ?

[zandex]

The battery life on the Treo is the best I have ever seen in a phone with so much capabilities and features. Cultus can give you the real test details...

[Cultus]

The Treo battery life is not bad....on a daily basis I listen to lots of mp3's, play monopoly, browse the net, chat on msn (chat nuff and long)...in fact I always have data mode turned on...send and receive emails...plus chat on the phone...my battery lasts me 2-3 days without charge.....but always remember to top up on the battery as aften as possible....this promotes long battery life in the Treo...

[GPRS Internet]

Expalin, " Data mode on "

[Cultus]

Data mode on = gprs mode on

[GPRS Internet]

OK, so Data mode off save battery Life ... ?

[zandex]

It is called Wireless mode, if you turn it off, then you wont be available to use your phone only the PDA features...Now that will save battery a lot for anyone.

[GPRS Internet]

Sweeeeeeet :icon_cool

[Chris]

This might me late news, but I called C&W asking for info on the Tre 600 and wa told that they are no longer selling the 600. Could this mean that the 650 is really close?

[zandex]

This might me late news, but I called C&W asking for info on the Tre 600 and wa told that they are no longer selling the 600. Could this mean that the 650 is really close?The 650 will be available next month, from C&W.

[GPRS Internet]

This might me late news, but I called C&W asking for info on the Tre 600 and wa told that they are no longer selling the 600. Could this mean that the 650 is really close?

Yeah, they say next month ... you thinking of getting a 600/650

[Chris]

Right now I feel like any smartphone that will keep my address book, calendar, etc will do :(

[GPRS Internet]

Right now I feel like any smartphone that will keep my address book, calendar, etc will do :(

O ok, a guess Cultus need to give you a demo and im sure youll be hooked on treo :)

[Chris]

Yeah that may be useful. I've sampled a P910 already but not the Treo 600/650. Where does the hip top 2 come in?

[GPRS Internet]

Yeah that may be useful. I've sampled a P910 already but not the Treo 600/650. Where does the hip top 2 come in?

Hip Top seems to be aimed at a yonger generation that is looking for mainly e-mail and sms capabilities, it doesnt seem to be strong on the pda side of things :eusa_shif

[death_knight]

yeh virus wanted one of those phones i had to push him away from it as it really had no actual value to it except for its coolness, wasn't feeling it at all, and honestly i was looking on the treo 600 and i just dont see how i would rate it over the p910, i mean even over the p800 it sticky. cause every thing that i see the phone capable of doing i see apps out there to do it for th p800 the p900 and not to mention the p910, i was finish ma googling and ting and i don't see the big hype bout the treo at all. not at all. the 650 really tried still cause i see a major step up, blue tooth and all, but it still not that far from the p910i.

[Cultus]

@ death_knight....buy the pee910 then...and we could linkup and compare....I'm sure you will be left crying over spilt milk :D:D

[Cultus]

Yeah that may be useful. I've sampled a P910 already but not the Treo 600/650. Where does the hip top 2 come in?Hey Chris...I'll be be glad to show you the power of a fully loaded Treo...you are gonna be blown away....I can put my head on the block for it....remember now I am not speaking of another mans' Treo or a brand new treo out of the box...I am reffering to mine...with all my productivity software loaded...not to mention multimedia apps..and everyday Techie utilities...

[GPRS Internet]

Hey Zandex , the treo 670 has your name all over it :) windows mobile, once they iron it out, how you guys think it will compare to the others ?

[GPRS Internet]

Niceeeeee

http://reviews.cnet.com/PalmOne_Treo_650__Cingular__GSM_GPRS_/4535-6452_7-31138486.html?tag=tab

:eusa_danc

[zandex]

Well if this is real for the Treo 670, then I will surely buy it without blinking..I cant wait for it to come pon di road....I was working with the Qtek 9090 and it is a big disappointment to me...Boy why cant I find a good Windows Mobile PDA/Phone?

[Moni-Q]

Well if this is real for the Treo 670, then I will surely buy it without blinking..I cant wait for it to come pon di road....I was working with the Qtek 9090 and it is a big disappointment to me...Boy why cant I find a good Windows Mobile PDA/Phone?

Why was it such a dissapointment?

[GPRS Internet]

I was working with the Qtek 9090 and it is a big disappointment to me...Boy why cant I find a good Windows Mobile PDA/Phone?

:( :( care to give us a review ?

[zandex]

I am planning to do an official review of this device, however I am not yet in that position.

There are some areas that I try to focus on whenever reviewing and looking for any PDA/Phone device.

- Battery Life = 3
- Speaker = 3
- Size = 2
- Weight = 1
- Technical Support = 1

On a scale from 1 - 10, with 10 being the highest. The above rating is for the Qtek 9090 Windows Mobile Edition.

The Qtek 9090 has a really bad battery life, an average of 1 day on using the PDA/Phone. The speaker is living crap, and cannot come near to the Treo...The device is very, very, extremely heavy and bulky...I would need to carry a back braces to bring this device around...lol

Qtek is not a company, so there are no hardcore technical support. This device was just named for any carrier who wants it...correct me if I am wrong.

To tell you the truth, I was not even interested to findout anything more about the Qtek 9090 once it had a failing grade on the above ratings.

[GPRS Internet]

So based from your opinion it sounds like the qtek bites the dust .... are you basically saying then that the treo 600 or even the p910 is a farrrrrr better device ?

Question : When do you think these devices will allow you to load on your own OS ? ie. palmos/winmobile/pocket pc/etc

[zandex]

From the time spend with the Qtek 9090, it is not the Windows Mobile/Pocket PC I want to be around me for my phone....

I personally think that the Treo and Sony P910i are better phone/pda then the Qtek 9090. Please note here that I am comparing devices and not the O/S...

The best device I ever used was the Pocket PC is HP 1945...man sorry I sold it!...However my taste for technology has changed...want a combined device instead of two separate units..

Looking at the present situation with pda/phone, I dont think the manufacturer wants that level of complexity into their lives...Furthermore changing the O/S can generate several problems..

[GPRS Internet]

Zeen Zeen :icon_cool

[Cultus]

I miss my iPAQ 1945 too...man that device was great when used with the T68i....its like they were both made for each other...Qtek 9090 is crap as I have predicted. Right now I don't think developers have mastered the art of making a good all round Pocket PC Smartphone. These devices always seem to be on the bulky and heavy side of things....also Battery life and audio quality always seems to be very poor. Is this a fault of the operating system...being that its is windows os (pocket pc version), could it be due to the fact that this OS is such a resource hog...then that leads to poor battery life and poor audio quality...when combined with Bluetooth, WiFi, and a Radio....hhhhhmmmm now I see why Palm OS and the upcoming Symbian are the right choices for such devices. Small, light on resources, and gets the job done well...also developers have full access to the core of the OS and don't have to just settle for API's (from microsoft). So they can write a truly solid code for a truly solid OS (Palm)...

Cultus's Opinions

[GPRS Internet]

.

There are some areas that I try to focus on whenever reviewing and looking for any PDA/Phone device.

- Battery Life = 3
- Speaker = 3
- Size = 2
- Weight = 1
- Technical Support = 1


Hey Zandex, can you also post your ratings for the Treo 600 like you did above ... other 600 users feel free to post your ratings as well :icon_cool

[Moni-Q]

Hey Zandex, can you also post your ratings for the Treo 600 like you did above ... other 600 users feel free to post your ratings as well :icon_cool

- Battery Life = 7
- Speaker = 8
- Size = 4
- Weight = 4
- Technical Support = NA

[ProdMaster]

You know something guys we could go on and on about the features .cost and etc etc of smartphones. The important thing to consider before buying one is

Will it make you more productive on a day to day basis?

Does it have all the features that one would "need"?

What about the long term benefits?

I am considering getting one where I can listen to mp3, take down notes,have my word and excel type of thing, surf internet and a little instant messenger and I am okay. As simple as that. :icon_cool

[GPRS Internet]

I am considering getting one where I can listen to mp3, take down notes,have my word and excel type of thing, surf internet and a little instant messenger and I am okay. As simple as that. :icon_cool

Yup, but what i realized , allot if not all smartphones will offer those features, so in essence you could go out and get anyone and be happy, its the add-ons/usability/effectiveness of a device that will make one stand out from the rest.

Which one were you thinking of getting ?

[jaywhy13]

I don't think that there are many phones out there that can compare with the functionality of the p900 that Sony Ericsson has but uh... I think their models are just too delicate... they can't take a good fall at all...

I'm going to be waiting for one of Nokia's newer models... like the 6630, 6680 or 6681. They have most of if not all the functionality of the p9's but minus the stylus. (A touch screen interface always gives me the creeps... they're TOO delicate)

[Cultus]

Treo 600 Ratings from Cultus hehehehe:

Battery = 7

Speaker = 10 (its the best speaker I have ever heard on any mobile device)

Size = 10 (perfect, sleek form factor. notice every manufacturer is now copy catting the form factor of the Treo 600 eg) The new S.E. Pee1000

Weight = 5

Tech Support = N/A (I provide my own Tech Support)

Warranty = 10 (if it damaged C&W will just replace it)

Screen Resolution = 6 (160x160 just not cutting it anymore, thank God for the 650)

Bit Depth = 6 (again because the 650 has a higher bit depth I now hate the 600's bit depth I mean 600 has 16K while the 650 has 64K colours)

Camera = 4 (needs too much light to be able to take a good picture)

Audio Recording = 10 (perfect sound quality and rec quality)

Movie Recording = 5 (again needs too much light)

Bundled Treo 600 Apps = 2 (its just the OS with nothing installed only a mail client that sucks, MS Office suite that only allows viewing, no editing, no mp3 player, no movie player or recorder, no audio recorded..in fact no multimedia apps comes bundled.

Device Capabilities = 10 (The palm os application database is now reaching 28 thousand apps damn, plus my current collection keeps me very productive)

Overall Rating for Treo 600 = 7/10
Conclusion: with the arrival of the Treo 650, I would suggest that one invest in that device. The 650 has improved on all the shortcomings of the 600. It has a 320x320 screen resolution, with 64K bit depth, it now has Bluetooth capabilities, and a 1.5 Megapixel camera, it also comes with much more bundled apps and multimedia apps, so one can get up and running being productive, without having to go online for additional third party applications. The 650 is definately the way to go it you want to invest in a Palmone Treo device.

[GPRS Internet]

Hey Cultus, i dont see you have a Chick Magnet Rating in there :p i been hearing it would get a rating of 10 in that catigory :icon_cool

:icon_mrgr

[Cultus]

Hey Cultus, i dont see you have a Chick Magnet Rating in there :p i been hearing it would get a rating of 10 in that catigory :icon_cool

:icon_mrgrWell yeah it would definately get a 10 in the chick magnet category....Females just always gets drawn to me whenever I pop out my Treo :D:D...they always ask "is that a cell phone"...I always answer "no not really it's more like a pocket computer with a cell phone built in".....then they reply...."really what can you do on it"....then the product demo starts.....after which they say..."I want one too"....then they ask "how much does it cost, it's supposed to be very expensive"...then I respond..."oh no not really..it's just about 52 thousand dollars or a litttle more".....they open their eyes wide and say "Wow...you have money"......conversation usually ends with a Name and exchange of cell numbers......It's a real chic magnet.....trust me...

[GPRS Internet]

hahaha, cool nu :icon_cool

[death_knight]

lmao ez cultus, yeh i'm also a believer of pimping the mobile devices, grabbing attention with what i'm able to do from the single device.

[GPRS Internet]

lmao ez cultus, yeh i'm also a believer of pimping the mobile devices, grabbing attention with what i'm able to do from the single device.


Post your user ratings for the device you have ,, p800 if i remember correctly :icon_cool

[ProdMaster]

:eusa_clap :eusa_clap @ Cultus!!

[Tamara]

then they ask "how much does it cost, it's supposed to be very expensive"...then I respond..."oh no not really..it's just about 52 thousand dollars or a litttle more".....they open their eyes wide and say "Wow...you have money"......conversation usually ends with a Name and exchange of cell numbers......It's a real chic magnet.....trust me...
LAME!!! Why you don't leave the little Merl Grove Girl Dem Alone...LMAO - Joke!
But if they have a 3310...I could see their enormous delight.

[ProdMaster]

Yup, but what i realized , allot if not all smartphones will offer those features, so in essence you could go out and get anyone and be happy, its the add-ons/usability/effectiveness of a device that will make one stand out from the rest.

Which one were you thinking of getting ?
P800 no doubt......
It seems very satisfactoy for me :icon_cool

[GPRS Internet]

Seen Seen, fair enough :icon_cool

[GPRS Internet]

Ok Peoples , im now good to go :icon_cool Got Ma Treo 600 on Thursday :eusa_danc .. been busy since, havent had the time to start playing with it as yet ......

Moni .... Cultus .... Sen on the Apps :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v717/Wiggy05/MyTreo.jpg

[Cultus]

Whatever you want...just gimmie a holla on msn...I'll be more than happy to help you out...

[ProdMaster]

well I finally got the p800,I have been getting the applications and testing out the internet got opera browser,wow the digital camera takes some decent pics too . :eusa_danc :eusa_danc :eusa_booh :icon_mrgr

[GPRS Internet]

Cant seem to get on techja from the trea, everyother sites work , any ideas ?

O yeah, im using default browser ... still havnt set up the phone yet.

[ProdMaster]

Cant seem to get on techja from the trea, everyother sites work , any ideas ?

O yeah, im using default browser ... still havnt set up the phone yet.
what is the name of the default browser?

[GPRS Internet]

Blazer ......... it worked after a couple refreshes

[ProdMaster]

Blazer ......... it worked after a couple refreshes
great have fun ! :icon_cool

[GPRS Internet]

Good to go, posting from treo now. :)

[zandex]

Finally we have a new convert...well, enjoy every moment of that device.

[Cultus]

GPRS Internet...please please do not use Blazer...it is slow ....use webpro instead...plus Blazer has problems accessing some websites with lots of activeX controls....webpro is much better

[GPRS Internet]

Yup, using webpro now :icon_cool


All this phone needs now is Highspeed Internet Access ..... CW buss wi nu :eusa_pray

[GPRS Internet]

Must say im loving the Treo ... all my frinds now want one :p
The Mp3 player is banging ... Verichat is off the Chain ... email ... web ... how was i living without this :eusa_doh:

[wolfman]

Must say im loving the Treo ... all my frinds now want one :p
The Mp3 player is banging ... Verichat is off the Chain ... email ... web ... how was i living without this :eusa_doh:
I second that everyone wants one at work, web pro is off the hook

[Cultus]

Wow I'm so glad to see that you guys are enjoying your Treos...life is really better with it...just don't become like me and get too dependent on it...because like now...I would go crazy without my Treo....

[gadgeteer]

Trus mi Cultus, I know exactly what you mean.

Enjoy GPRS!

[GPRS Internet]

Zandex, this ones for you :icon_cool

http://mytreo.net/news/archives/P1000161.jpg

After we received an intriguing phone call, a meeting was arranged with what turned out to be a source close to the manufacturers of the Treo 650 yesterday, where we were shown a pre-production, fully functional Treo running on Microsoft’s Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition for PocketPC Phone Edition. The PocketPC Treo that we were shown was, according to our source, destined for T-Mobile and to be called the Treo 650M.

Picking up the Treo 650M for the first time, we noticed that it has the same form factor as the Treo 650 and quite difficult to distinguish between the two, especially with the screen off. Our source told us that the production version will have a “Windows” key rather than a “Home” key. In addition, the back will sport a two-tone dark blue for the casing and a lighter blue for the battery cover.

Rather like the Treo 650, the Treo 650M will be powered by an Intel Xscale processor, although this time it’s a Bulverde at 520MHz. We found that applications launched very quickly indeed. Being truly multitasking, we were able to switch very slickly between writing in Pocket Word, taking pictures, taking handwritten notes within a contact, all whilst being on the phone using a Bluetooth headset.

http://mytreo.net/news/archives/P1000165.jpg

In terms of memory, the Treo 650M will have 128MB of RAM and 64MB of flash ROM. Unlike the Treo 650, the 650M will not use non-volatile RAM to store user-installed applications/databases. However, a backup application is included that allows important data to be saved to the SD card on schedule.

Like the Treo 650, the 650M will also have Bluetooth, but version 1.2 (Widcomm stack) instead, which will allow for wireless streaming of music to Bluetooth headphones, and much better voice clarity and range.

http://mytreo.net/news/archives/P1000163.jpg

Fortunately, unlike the Treo 650, the 650M will have 802.11b wireless LAN built in (finally)! Once we powered up the wireless LAN, the 650M automatically detected all access points within range and launched a connection wizard. We were able to connect to a local access point very easily, check email, surf the web and listen to an internet radio station on Windows Media Player 10 Mobile for PocketPC!

On the camera, the Treo 650M has upgraded hardware at 1.3 megapixels. The camera software is outstanding and we were able to take very good looking pictures even in the difficult lighting of our meeting place. This application is far more advanced than that on the Treo 650 with options to adjust white balance, ISO settings and even has a flicker-free mode so you can take pictures off a CRT (e.g. a TV) and not see the scan lines!

One final thing we noticed was that the battery is rated at whopping 1500 mAh. This high capacity is probably a necessity given that wireless LAN activity is very power intensive. We were unable to get standby or talk times from our source.

Lastly, our source couldn’t tell us when the Treo 650M will hit the shelves, but we think it’s an exciting development. Kudos for PalmOne for recognizing a best-of-class form factor and being flexible enough to recognize a winning combination between hardware and software!

[zandex]

Man that thing is superb....nothing more to say..just superb....waiting


waiting

waiting....

I wonder how long I have to wait...

[Gillion]

hmmmmm it is april first is it not ?

[GPRS Internet]

hmmmmm it is april first is it not ?

Hahahaha, never even remember about that :) no fooling here this one is legit.........

Still can't bileave this thing, posting from car now, in traffic :@)

I'm gonna add a poll to thread a little later, my vote is clear now ;)