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Yogibear69
December 1, 2008, 04:45 AM
Told yah I was gonna get one ...:sold:

I held off writing on this so i could thoroughly put this baby through its paces and trust me as of now there is NO other phone quite like it ... trust me

Here's why
RIM intorduced this phone as a rplacement and upgrade to the 8820 business phone and the the 8320..as well as the 8120 if u dont mind the size difference ..

What RIM DIDN'T tell you is that it incorporates both the best of the multimedia and business aspects of the current market leader phones into this single model.

The phone DID have some iissues when I got it but those have workarounds and trust me when you are done .. there'll be no doubt u have the best of the best.

I'm currently in the UAE... there is soem restriction on internet access here but that being said here are the facts as I encountered them.

My considerations for phones were:

*My old BB8320 which later quit on me
Specs as tricked out:.... seidio extended life battery ....memory manager... and counteless softwares including... google maps...Facebook, AIM, ICQ, Gmail, Yahoo, Hi5 individual email messengers.... EQO, Cellity, ebuddy, nimbuzz... combined messengers .. used at various times in various situs.... Opera 4.2 browser
Bags of themes including a great Bob Marley Theme, Zen and Today Themes
OS system upgrade to 4.5.0.192....

*HTC Touch
*HTC Diamond
*HTC Touch Pro
*Samsung i900
*Nokia E71
*Nokia E66
*BB Storm
*Iphone 3G
*Nokia N95 16G
*Nokia N96

just to name a few


The main selling point for me was the data service from BB on a blackberry .. all these other phones to some degree can be linked to the BB servic thru Etisalat or DU here.

Google maps and Ebuddy basically would have been enough for both mapping and comms needs. nokia maps cost u and arm and a leg with regular legsand so do their frequent downloads eventho natively their browsers are great speedy and crisp rendering and the E66 has a great screen which uses the accelerometers like in an Iphone to turn the screen to landscape mode if you turn the phone 90 degrees. The E66 turns off all sound including ringtones if placed on its face. The E71 makes data entry and browsing a dream with the keyboard. Most of the others are touchscreens.

OK here we go:
I bought this baby at the Carrefour for about 2999 AED. yes I used my rent money. Its about $65000 Ja. I went home and raped the package on this baby!!!..LOL

power it up and Whala !!.. instantly I started falling in love..the screen may not be large but the phone's overall look and the screen itself makes it look almost cinema like.The quality is great.

The response of the phone once started after about 8-15 secs initally ..was speedy and inviting. u felt the need to try and find even a single flaw on the phone ...so that's what I did.....LOL... dig up ants nest

Charged this baby and took ont he road.. they have EDGE, GPRS , 2G and 3.5G data services here and the phone locked unto these beautiful. You have an option to limit urself to either both or just 2G or 3.5G. This will come in handy ...i'll soon tell u why...

as i said ... yahoo is blocked here.. so i downloaded ALL of the following and had them on the phone all at THE SAME TIME....Cellity, YahooGO!, EQO, Ebuddy, Google maps, GCalc, Facebook, Opera 4.2, Poynt,Viigo, Got-2, G-Flash, MobiPocket reader, Yamee,Flycast,Google mail, Iskoot, Google Talk,Etisalat portal,Beyond411,GRef,EQO, Nimbuzz,BB Messenger, Blinko, Windows Live messenger in ADDITION to the preloaded software. I downloaded more than 5 themes Zen and today and installed them to the phone.

I enumerated all of six (6) email addresses to the blackberry server including my work email so those were incorporated into my mail.

I installed a 16G memory SDHC micro card .. and it saw it even without the OS upgrade.. it even saw a 32G....yes its out ...575 AED or 12000 Ja.. but the 16G was a better deal at 189 AED.

I tossed on movies in MP4 formats.. about 4G of music files and a ton of pictures.

This BB nuh gyap yet !!... It handles...notice I say HANDLES... ALL of these apps as many as 6 of them simultaneously with relative ease.


BTW: Blackberry makes the BEST quality earplugs by far. The quality is far past anything i have yet to come across but for the more expensive ones eg; senneheiser. The Bold has earplug types..Dem wicked !! The 8320 has the semi plug type ... but both handle bass and high responses crisp and deep with no baffling.

I'd buy the earphones independently even if it wasnt for use on my phone !!

I listened to FlyCAST (internet radio) on the 3G data protocol with no problems while instant messaging with Ebuddy and still recieved calls and messages while doing it



This was not without a little tweaking though but even without it .. it can do it ...

Now on to what what the gripe was .....

BATTERY LIFE:
Served me for 3/4 of the day initially because i was using so many things at once ... then something strange happened. While using Ebuddy.. the phone bacame EXTREMELY hot and shut off...This wasnt the first time that somthing like this had happened and i did soem foum reading. i thought it was ebuddy at first and thereafter unistalled it... however it stilll kept getting a bit warm and the battery life was reduced after I removed it.

THE FIX and an EXPLANATION
This is useful for even u non-blackberry users
I upgraded the OS to the newest from an Italian BB provider which u can also get thru Rogers of Canada. I also upgraded the desktop manager. Ran the phone again and it was a bit improved in several areas ...

initially when it started back up it was sluggish . this is because the phone takes a little time to actually LEARN your habits.. sound like crap eh ?:eusa_liar..Ok lemme explain.. remember when I first started the phone and I told u it took 8 -15 secs to startup.. this was as I progressively added applications to it .. each individual application has its own data requirement for it to work fast and efficiently ..so as u open each .. it learns and preloads data even after a shutdown and restart.. this might make the data comms SEEM slow but after about 20 mins its grease lightning..

Nyway.. still had a little issue of the heat and some concern of the battery life after that OS and desktop upgrade ... :eusa_thin

The answer my friends was right in front of mean and so universal that it was not funny ....

If u have had a NEW phone with overheat probs and poor battery life, BEFORE you give it out.:eusa_hand..Try this first

DISABLE 3G/3.5G comms..Use only the 2G unless u find it necessary to download large and fast data. This baby is FAST ..but it also taxes your phone power heavily... and the phone aint gonna stop data comms til u tell it not to whether u commanded it or or u didnt. 3G REALLY sucks the power from your battery at a phenomenol rate and with massive and sharp heat buildup as well.

after that.........smooth sailing.:eusa_danc. Battery lasted for a day to a day and a half with moderate use...listening stored music, messaging , email and phonecalls (about 2hrs daily)... small heat signature but not as significant as before. No Iphone or i900 or any other phone nuh test ....I challenge anyone who says otherwise ...especially with the BB data service to boot

Its an EXCELLENT phone

Footnote:
I toasted a 8320 and i've seen two E66s smoked because of the 3G issue.
My 8320 became a hotplate and quit because of one primary reason .....
With the stock battery . The phone battery power would have been depleted
and it would hav shut down without damage to the internal circuitry.
With the extra capacity battery which in my case provided 3x as much power.. 3-5 days without charging with moderate to heay use....i basically threw a bucket of lighter fluid on that overheat issue....There was as much power as it needed ...so it ran and ran ran and RAN even after it got hot.. hence Pssshhct!! and that funny whisp of smoke and that smell.

You basically have to monitor or actually be in attendance or controllng the phone when using the 3G data network. In my honest humble opinion...

Nyway ..hope u guys get ur hands on one.... I wouldnt to want to be bragging unsubstantiated .:eusa_liar...LOL

Djohne
December 1, 2008, 06:40 AM
Wow.....You need to email this to RIM cause I was thinking about using one but now I'm like totally sold....just waiting to hear what CLARO will have in the way of BB plan...

jazzwadd
December 1, 2008, 06:45 AM
very informative post yogi :eusa_clap:eusa_clap ..........how things over in the far corner of your world? bring a barrel of oil when u coming back..lol

Verdizzle
December 1, 2008, 07:13 AM
Sounds real good, i wanna get one just waiting on the right price.


very informative post yogi :eusa_clap:eusa_clap ..........how things over in the far corner of your world? bring a barrel of oil when u coming back..lol

By the way do you know of any BOLD thats selling now for an affordable price. please let me know.

kirkcaldyj
December 1, 2008, 07:53 AM
Am check with LIME....the prices are ok...Got mine on Saturday and I can confirm what was said expect the 3G but will def keep in mind

wolfman
December 1, 2008, 08:05 AM
Yo Yogi I see where youse opera 4.2 is the words jumbled up on your screen

GPRS Internet
December 1, 2008, 08:10 AM
where you get the 16/32gb microsd

Verdizzle
December 1, 2008, 08:22 AM
Am check with LIME....the prices are ok...Got mine on Saturday and I can confirm what was said expect the 3G but will def keep in mind

What was the price you got the BOLD for?

wolfman
December 1, 2008, 08:34 AM
What was the price you got the BOLD for?
If mem serves me right 27k plus 1800 deposit and the package u choose I chose ultra pak 300 plus tax when I look back on receipt I could confirm but I know I will be paying 2598 plus tax if I stay within my voice plan

inque2181
December 1, 2008, 09:50 AM
Yo Yogi I see where youse opera 4.2 is the words jumbled up on your screen

change the font on the phone, i had that same prob and i changed the font and it works fine. Try BBClarity

kirkcaldyj
December 1, 2008, 10:14 AM
What was the price you got the BOLD for?

Got it for call it 28,000 with the two year contract. to break the contract i would have to pay the difference for the phone....decent contract

wolfman
December 1, 2008, 10:39 AM
change the font on the phone, i had that same prob and i changed the font and it works fine. Try BBClarity

Thanks much gonna try now and post results in terms of speed because it use to work slow on my curve

barrettrs
December 1, 2008, 10:54 AM
Wow this was a pretty well done review.....If I was hiring for RIM, your job would be secured as a Marketing rep. Anyways the phone sounds like a rock solid buy and without a doubt I am gonna get one of these babies and with a processor of that speed then I know that mulitasking will be a breeze.

Good Post....Quite informative

Ryan Sean
December 1, 2008, 11:49 AM
very informative post ma boss...i'm just waiting on a few things to clear up to get mine...i was waiting out on the storm...but ma research have proved me that the storm is a dud...suh...BOLD to the werl!!!

wolfman
December 1, 2008, 11:51 AM
change the font on the phone, i had that same prob and i changed the font and it works fine. Try BBClarity

Finally got it to work had to put font to small but now cant find where to zoom in i am not seeing that big square

Yogibear69
December 2, 2008, 08:23 AM
In this neck of the woods a few things do come at a cost:

Wolfman...........
Internet access and phones are two of them but its good to know that they've kept the cost down..for now...LOL

Inque is right about opera ........
Chaneg the font and also the rendering .. you have fullpage as well as column and mobile looks to choose from ... play around til u find the one that suits u... a word here on that though.. BB browser never used to have that fullscreen option until 8320 v4.5 .. it has got better and faster so actually its a toss up on choice whether to use bb browser or opera.. i still love opera tho

BTW.. you can watch youtube videos right off the phone now ... wheter u use opera or the bb browser and a suitable data plan of course

GPRS....
Both the 16/32G cards have just come out ... a few places might have it for high prices.. the places that wont are the ones that are touting that their phones can actually use them ... wel at least here .... in other words a whole army of Iphone killers... lol... what a prekeh ... mi nuh hear nubbaddy deh boast bout Iphone nuh more ...LOL..LOL...BBBbrruuuuhh HAHAHAHAHA (kof, kof)....LOL

wolfman
December 2, 2008, 09:54 AM
Wasn't aware of the youtube being able to watch prolly because I really do multimedia stuff on my phone

hv_thugg
December 2, 2008, 09:56 AM
Iphone is on pause for now aguess the hype gone.

RORY2g
December 2, 2008, 10:39 AM
Excellent review !!!
let me want to go and get mine right now...

arcanum
December 2, 2008, 11:32 AM
Good Review, I will get one soon...

madcats99
December 2, 2008, 11:32 AM
Iphone is on pause for now aguess the hype gone.

are you kidding? :eusa_naug

Which one is more readily AFFORDABLE the iphone or bold?

even the 2g iphone still expensive much less the 3g. As soon as the iphone seeps more and more into the hands of consumers den u see hype..

kirkcaldyj
December 2, 2008, 12:11 PM
Dude I have had iphone and bb before and I am telling you the bold is the best for communication and dependability the only thing the iphone have over the bold is the browser and the itune interface that's it

madcats99
December 2, 2008, 08:10 PM
Dude I have had iphone and bb before and I am telling you the bold is the best for communication and dependability the only thing the iphone have over the bold is the browser and the itune interface that's it

We talking about 'teh hype' :eusa_hand


Blackberries taking the place like storm (no pun intended) bcz there are now becoming readily AFFORDABLE, track back to 1Q 2008. Blackberry was only in the palms of the l33t.

hv_thugg
December 2, 2008, 08:17 PM
I still dont like Blackberry sorry. and i have had nearly all the top models to test just not a fan.

GPRS Internet
December 2, 2008, 08:19 PM
Ditto .. blackberry to me is like a calculator on crank .. the menue settings are ouuttttdattedddd :eusa_wall

pcchick
December 2, 2008, 10:20 PM
It's like BB is the Psalms 23 to the wurllllll?!!

So I have been scouting out Best Buy and AT&T stores looking at mobile phones. I stood there to read, touch, and try out the BB- Curve, Gold, Pearl. I am NOT impressed. Honestly, I have never been impressed. What is the big deal and excitement everyone is creating over BB for?

The worker named Kevin came over to me to help since I was in the store anyway to ask about my newly bought Pantech. And he was showing me that with a BB one can check calendar, alarms, mail, im, it have mini-key board with the #s. :icon_lol: Mi just look inna him cute face and laugh (cute without a brain), and tell him seh my phone can do that too and so it was for my Motorola, so it is for other phones? He said, "oh people just hyped about BB that's all!" Whatta a drag?! :icon_roll Mi just show him mi phone and how it slide up and down, colorful, and lots more options. BB just so-so so....dis big ole ting like mi palm wid keys like any other weh naw move go no weh.

Really what I am saying is......BB is okay but nothing to hyped over.:icon_roll

Sorry to kill the nice thread.

p.wade.r
December 3, 2008, 12:07 AM
It's like BB is the Psalms 23 to the wurllllll?!!

So I have been scouting out Best Buy and AT&T stores looking at mobile phones. I stood there to read, touch, and try out the BB- Curve, Gold, Pearl. I am NOT impressed. Honestly, I have never been impressed. What is the big deal and excitement everyone is creating over BB for?

The worker named Kevin came over to me to help since I was in the store anyway to ask about my newly bought Pantech. And he was showing me that with a BB one can check calendar, alarms, mail, im, it have mini-key board with the #s. :icon_lol: Mi just look inna him cute face and laugh (cute without a brain), and tell him seh my phone can do that too and so it was for my Motorola, so it is for other phones? He said, "oh people just hyped about BB that's all!" Whatta a drag?! :icon_roll Mi just show him mi phone and how it slide up and down, colorful, and lots more options. BB just so-so so....dis big ole ting like mi palm wid keys like any other weh naw move go no weh.

Really what I am saying is......BB is okay but nothing to hyped over.:icon_roll

Sorry to kill the nice thread.


Its not that there is an hype around these devices. I am no Black-Berry fan, but BB unlike most of these phones companies now, have put more thought into how the phone operates and how much can you depend on it as a phone and all the features it comes with.

Most of these phone companies now are more focus on the Flashy-Ness of the OS and how it looks and Navigates, Blackberry has sacrificed all of that and has scale down the visual appeal of the OS to put less of a strain on the processor and the phone memory, hence you have phone with alot of spare power to do everything else.

I think this is a very smart move, For a So Called "Calculator" it is certainly making waves all over the world.

Yogibear69
December 12, 2008, 11:03 AM
can u spell H-A-T-E-R ?..LOL
The fact of the matter is whether u look at the phone as a techie, a business man ora multimedia enthusiast you are going to be satisfied !!...
Want me to get rad?.. ok
lets go .. non biased and practical

It uses java based AND a great propeitary package par none..nokia has an impressive lineup but as yet still cant come with a base package that u don't have to continually access the phone developers to buy.

The themes are great and varied and can be customised and designed by enthusiasts and hobbyists alike.

The wifi versions are even more of an asset utilizing the provided browser and any other that is installed.

I give some ground in the area of video options in terms of types of video that can be played unconverted but that can be easily worked around.

BB continually updates even older models with software and OS to accept newer software...beat that !!!

Unlimited internet package using ANY communication protocol including EVDO GSM GPRS 3G and 2G....PLUS di wifi if u have it .. toss in the messengers .. or better yet .. the myriad of 3rd party apps that can do it ... plus the processor power

Screw IPHONE....u cant swap neither battery OR memory or FIND any for that matter ... BB allows u to do BOTH and still far less than u can buy most IPHONE basic accessories for .....is lie mi a tell ?!!

Little or no keyboard or track ball problems, VERY durable, can be used wtihout smudging no damned touchscreen...it can take a fair amount of sweat and moisture and still function ...

No moving parts like sliders or flips so no ribbons to replace after a while ...

AND ADD THIS TO THE LONG LIST OF THINGS....

even if the phone quits in working in ANY respecy general it still makes a VERY useful PDA.. VERY useful with applications that are independent of the telephone service or provider..and all data is transferable thru the memory card and or blue tooth ....

Now after reading all this ... bear in mind this is a GENERAL synopsis of the usefulness of a blackberry regardless of the model ...WHICH OTHER CLASS OF PHONES CAN U DO THAT FOR INCLUDING THE ANTIQUATED ONES?

Sony Ericsson ?.. Not pre-990... and that uses touchscreen and isnt so user friendly ..it has its points

Nokia ?.. Great battery life overall but is taking advantage of the consumers .. everyting yuh haffi a buy through nokia .com

LG...New kid on the block .. nice fancy toys with good battery life

HTC... the ONLY competition right now and still BB is in the lead

Samsung...i900 just a come

and the list goes on ....
get the picture?..... basically u have a small laptop in your palm

anyone consider even buying an ultra portable notebook since you've had a bold, a storm or a curve ? or even and 88++ or an 8120 ?

I rest my case

BUBBA
December 12, 2008, 11:06 AM
Ditto .. blackberry to me is like a calculator on crank .. the menue settings are ouuttttdattedddd :eusa_wall

i second this :eusa_clap dem phone deh mek mi head hot mi :eusa_wall

wolfman
December 12, 2008, 11:16 AM
i second this :eusa_clap dem phone deh mek mi head hot mi :eusa_wall

When u check me later bet a make you change you mind:icon_lol: