Whats Wrong With My Computer

[BUBBA]

RECENTLY WEN I START THE COMPUTER THIS HAPPENS
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/3194/p1010345oq2.jpg

when i try to go into the bios this happens
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4431/p1010349kc9.jpg

can someone help?

[Jiggness2000]

graphics card gone me bwoy get a new one.

[MasterSnake]

Maybe u should check ur graphics card/adapter

[krayzie]

yes bubba do that check them and if u can get a next card to try to be on the safe side

[**ScarFace**]

try cleaning off video card connectors with an eraser and retry if still shows like that buy a new one

[hipster]

Check the graphic card probly a shortage or non connection mite be possible

[semitop]

yep... definitely some display problem. graphics card and make sure its not the monitor. make sure the card is seated properly and if it has a power connector check that.

[gladdylowe]

it could be ur video card or ur memory.. if u have 2 stick of memory. try boot up with one and change slot.

[SgtMac2]

that video card looks like it was damaged by electricity. ask me how i know, go ahead, i dare you!

[mobile_fan_2k5]

Yow, Bubba u salt..............atleast my monitor can work. But the Screen keeps shrinking.

[Aldayne]

Last time i saw similar graphics problem the card was bad.

[malco1987]

My Cousin Has a laptop it does the same thing only when he closes the flip and the it is running, what would you suggest the problem is with that
By the way it is brand new like out the plastic.

[deakie]

Yow, Bubba u salt..............atleast my monitor can work. But the Screen keeps shrinking.

:eusa_clap:icon_lol::eusa_clap
funniest line i have read in awhile.........

[BUBBA]

that video card looks like it was damaged by electricity. ask me how i know, go ahead, i dare you!

i dont have a any cards in the slots so it could be the onboard card
and the electricity part, the computer was giving me frequent shocks wenever i touch it so i guess this board is done for

[deakie]

ahhhh....sounds like you have a short.

best advice is to reseat the motherboard and ensure that no part of it is touching the case, excepting for the screws.....

[T-Zero]

i dont have a any cards in the slots so it could be the onboard card
and the electricity part, the computer was giving me frequent shocks wenever i touch it so i guess this board is done for

yea i think you have just meet your demise

[zRo ToLeRaNcE]

ahhhh....sounds like you have a short.

best advice is to reseat the motherboard and ensure that no part of it is touching the case, excepting for the screws.....
I never seen where the mobo shorting out on the case could cause the bare metal on the system unit to conduct electricity.
If the Mobo is shorten out on the case it CAN cause the system to behave as shown though.


i dont have a any cards in the slots so it could be the onboard card
and the electricity part, the computer was giving me frequent shocks wenever i touch it so i guess this board is done for
Things to note:
1. Your Power Supply is grounds Your Case
2. Ground runs through your PS, through the 3-pronged plug to the house ground

If the ground in your house is missing or not wired properly, it can cause current to be running through your case and u get that little tingling feeling (Shock) when u touch the bare metal. Therefore as Deakie said...if you Mobo is shorting out on the case then the current from the PS touching the case going to go into your motherboard and mess with things. Your Mobo doesn't have to be dead though.

Two things are for sure:
1. Your Mobo is touching somewhere it should be
2. If you feeling shock on you case - check your grounding.

Make sure your using a 3-pronged plug - make sure u didn't break off the grounding pin.

If your using an extension - make sure it supports 3-pronged plugs all the way back to the wall.

Alot of old houses don't have proper ground wiring for 3-pronged devices.

When reseating your Mobo, don't put anything under it (like that little spongy thing that comes with the Mobo). Sometimes, there are unused screw holes that the Mobo is touching that don't align with any screws. These holes need to be covered with a little plastic thing that comes with some cases. A small bit of paper can suffice though.

Also, make sure you Mobo doesn't stretch too far and really is touching your case at the edges. The only part of the Mobo that should come in contact with the case is where the screws hold the mobo and by the connectors.

Once u reseat and satisfied - try the PC at another home.

[mobile_fan_2k5]

BUBBA, ur PC is dangerous. IT actually shocks u if u touch it. Is it the one u built piece by peice or is it another one. Is it the asrock 478 board.

[Kev4eva]

that happened to me back in October.....suspected it was graphic card prob but realized it was not since it only happened when the pc POSTS(power on self test) and when in the Bios. I took the pc apart reseated all expansion cards, cpu,memory,bios chips etc and cleared the CMOS and Bingo it disappeared and worked fine after that so it was chip creep after all.

[Electrotechnic]

What kinda shock Bubba? Grabbing or jolt? Jolt means it's static..... GRABBING mean short. Loosen your motherboard screws a bit. If the machine goes into windows and works normally, it is most definitely your vid card. If it's onboard, dude you're *cuss word*. Hope you have an AGP slot or else you need a new mobo. If anything I come look at it for you one day this week or weekend.

[deakie]

I never seen where the mobo shorting out on the case could cause the bare metal on the system unit to conduct electricity.

if there is good ground protection, then thats exactly what its designed to do....hence the need for proper grounding for metal cases.

However....a couple more things to bear in mind....

if the ground lead in the power case is bad, then the case will be 'live' if there is a short...no current flowing to ground excepting when you touch it...
granted, at 12 and 5 volts.....it wont be a fatal experience as such.....but if its the 110 power side in the power module that is shorting, then thats highly dangerous.

the second thing is, if a system is shorting to ground via the case, then it would be reasonable to think that one would be safe even if you should touch it.
the fact is, you become a secondary conductor competing for the current.

this is easily proven by having two resistors in parallel. one of high value and one of almost zero value. if the source voltage is constant, then each resistor is capable of working at its own current rating for that voltage.
this is where the good grounding comes in by being able to handle nearly all the current to ground and causing the supply to fuse....therefore bringing an end to the live condition.


and how many houses are now fitted with the three pin plugs......i'm sure older houses in jamaica still have two pin sockets. not everyone rewires to newer standards based on costs.

any equipment that gives you a tingle should immediately be disconnected and checked. its quite likely that it will only get worse......

[Xeru]

YOu kno interestingly enough, I got a screen kinda like that over the week end but it was cause i overclocked the vid card a little too much and forgot to reset it:)

[zRo ToLeRaNcE]

if there is good ground protection, then thats exactly what its designed to do....hence the need for proper grounding for metal cases.

However....a couple more things to bear in mind....

if the ground lead in the power case is bad, then the case will be 'live' if there is a short...no current flowing to ground excepting when you touch it...
granted, at 12 and 5 volts.....it wont be a fatal experience as such.....but if its the 110 power side in the power module that is shorting, then thats highly dangerous...
Not being an electrical engineer it kinda hard to understand some of your explanations BUT you've said some things which say to me that there is still no way for a motherboard shorting on a case to cause the case itself to start shocking.

The only way this would happen is if the ground pin was bad. Therefore the point of lowest resistance would no longer be the ground.

So, in a scenario where EVERYTHING in terms of ground and wiring is proper - if the mobo should touch the case, you won't feel any shock on the case.

[BUBBA]

What kinda shock Bubba? Grabbing or jolt? Jolt means it's static..... GRABBING mean short. Loosen your motherboard screws a bit. If the machine goes into windows and works normally, it is most definitely your vid card. If it's onboard, dude you're *cuss word*. Hope you have an AGP slot or else you need a new mobo. If anything I come look at it for you one day this week or weekend.

it was a jolt feeling anywayz i figure this board is done or else i get a video card (AGP) and see if it wud work if not i plan not to go furthur with this mobo and just get a new 1

oh yeah power cord had 1 of the thingy missing (nevr realized it) so yeah i see how it happened i tried it again with a new cord no shocks

[frass2000]

hush my yute, your video card goin, i have the same problem with my 6800gs
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/3446/wowscrnshot121107222757mc7.jpg

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9547/image087la6.jpg

[Electrotechnic]

What are your VGA temps? Glad you cool now Bubba. Also people, it's not wise to use the 3pin to 2pin adapters. Better you buy a female socket (normal wall plug) and replace it. It is easy to install but if you're unsure ask an electrician. Plugs should cost about 150 so you really have no excuses.

[frass2000]

the card wasnt even at 70 degrees, i got paranoid one day at work and i found this
http://www.playtool.com/pages/artifacts/artifacts.html
turns out i have bad video ram according to that site

[Xeru]

the card wasnt even at 70 degrees, i got paranoid one day at work and i found this
http://www.playtool.com/pages/artifacts/artifacts.html
turns out i have bad video ram according to that site

Ahmm.. lol yo is too much gaming killing ur vid card, from i see wow i kno u play nuff game Im yet to meet a person who can play wow for few hours a week

[frass2000]

lololol i find that hard to beleive because before i bought that card i was using a geforce 4 ti4200 from lvl 1-60 and i started raiding with that card to the way i see it is just salt me salt

[Electrotechnic]

Him probably bun it up yes. Probably him PSU cause it too.

[deakie]

Not being an electrical engineer it kinda hard to understand some of your explanations BUT you've said some things which say to me that there is still no way for a motherboard shorting on a case to cause the case itself to start shocking.

The only way this would happen is if the ground pin was bad. Therefore the point of lowest resistance would no longer be the ground.

So, in a scenario where EVERYTHING in terms of ground and wiring is proper - if the mobo should touch the case, you won't feel any shock on the case.

for the italics....
you got it! thats what i said.....

for the bold....
think of it this way.....

lets say you have a dc generator and both leads fell into a pond.....and the generator is on.....
question is.....

would you go and stand in the pond barefoot? :D

if not why? :p

*note....
the water in the pond could be considered as grounded due to its lovely contact with ground....

okay....its not a fair comparison or explanation.
the point is that ground is a virtual potential.
its defined as zero with respect to a system but may not be zero with respect to another system.
you may represent a different potential and as a result, there is a voltage difference which is what causes current to flow.
remember, current is flowing to ground!

the mere fact that we go to lengths to ground our equipment is only as good as the grounding points within our homes.
My advice is that if you suspect any equipment of a short....switch it off!! you cant go wrong with that.

[frass2000]

i highly doubt that my ocz gamexstream 600watt psu caused it

[Electrotechnic]

LOL.....sarry boss man. LOOOOL.