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cosgm
February 18, 2006, 08:31 PM
it seems like everybody running from sony cameras maybe cause them expensive and different with them memory sticks....but yow guys...quality is quality:eusa_hand

Virus
February 18, 2006, 09:03 PM
The folks who dont do their research would run go buy one, cuz its a "CyberShot" but ppl have different experiences with them. I read that the pics come out dull, blurry, dark, all sorta somethin... For a Sony i was shocked, but when you check sites like amazon and see actual photos taken by a cybershot they weren't all that spectacular.

The Canon's always look brighter & sharper than the Sony's. Compare the 5mp Canon's and any Sony Cybershot... u'll see

cosgm
February 18, 2006, 09:30 PM
Ahh....u think so...welll the only thing i can say negative about a cybershot is that maybe the flash a bit weak at long range..but the pics better than all them canon's when i take pics with both canon and sony...a girl friend got a canon..u see. the thing is when u know how to use the cybershot u criss..the cybershot just have too much tech to it...to much settings and histograms to follow and different environmental setting to adjust to get ur perfect pics....u just want to snap and shoot, but if u got the extra second to adjust for the sweetest portriat or shot...u can do it and get awesome pics...plus the FINE mode in movie is crazy high res.

If u got the Memory space, the sony movies are high rate....when in FINE Mode...recommend nothin less than 512 stick

SgtMac2
February 19, 2006, 01:14 AM
i have a 7.2mp with a 256mb stick... and i love it. no complaints. i had a 3.2mp cybershot, loved it til they stole it. i am a happy camper. have seen the canons, they are nice, but i like my sony.

digitalchef
February 19, 2006, 06:06 AM
sony cameras were never point and shoot cameras. lately they have been venturing into the point and shoot market but i'm yet to use one that sony made. sony cameras are good as long as u don't use auto settings for everything, thats when the pictures will disappoint you. hence the difficulty alot of ppl have with them because of the manual controls.

Bl@ze
February 19, 2006, 06:25 AM
sony cameras were never point and shoot cameras. lately they have been venturing into the point and shoot market but i'm yet to use one that sony made. sony cameras are good as long as u don't use auto settings for everything, thats when the pictures will disappoint you. hence the difficulty alot of ppl have with them because of the manual controls.

i agree, ..........................

amd3200
February 19, 2006, 07:08 AM
The folks who dont do their research would run go buy one, cuz its a "CyberShot" but ppl have different experiences with them. I read that the pics come out dull, blurry, dark, all sorta somethin... For a Sony i was shocked, but when you check sites like amazon and see actual photos taken by a cybershot they weren't all that spectacular.

The Canon's always look brighter & sharper than the Sony's. Compare the 5mp Canon's and any Sony Cybershot... u'll see

depends on which canon 5MP.... the canon s2is megazoom uses the same ccd imaging sensor as the sony h1 (canon bought the sensors from sony) its only the in-camera processes that make that pictures look different.

theres a BIG misconception with digital cameras nowadays... everyone that sees you with one will ask the first question "how much megapix is that camera?" Whenever i hear that question, i know how much camera experience that person has.
i bought a sony 7.2 megapix camera with a sony 1gig stick... its true that to fully utilise the one i have, i had to understand photography lingo. ISO, shutter speeds, White balancing, aperature, spot metering....
BUT ONE of the main things i learnt after i bought my camera was that the megapix dont mean much... compared to the IMAGING SENSOR (whether it be CCD or CMOS) and in camera processing. theoretically the larger the imaging sensor the better quality pics can be taken.

http://www.dpreview.com/learn/?/Glossary/Camera_System/sensors_01.htm

most point and shoot cameras use 1/1.8 which is the size of 7.1mm x 5.3mm (about quarter the size of your fingernail!!!)
which is small in comparison to digital SLR's that use sensors that mimic film, hence 35mm x 35mm. so as you can see imaging sensing is limited by the smaller sensor. check this link and you'll see the different measurements of sensors to give you a better idea.

http://www.dpreview.com/learn/?/Glossary/Camera_System/sensors_01.htm

overall, www.dpreview.com is very indepth with digital photography. check this site if you wanna learn more, or check out a camera your interested in.

seanbee20
February 19, 2006, 09:32 AM
Well my take is this and I consider myself a semi-expert when its coming to digital photography having owned over 6 digital cameras.

I honestly believe that Sonys are not point and shoot cameras so if someone just goes out and buys a Sony Cybershot and justs points and shoots then they wont be getting the best pics possible.

The canon that Virus refers to (5.1) actually takes better pictures than my Sony cybershot (7.2) when used in a point and shoot mode but once I actually set start tweaking the settings before taking a pic with the Sony, I have gotten better results than I ever had with the Canon.

So for those who want a good point and shoot camera, for me, Canons are the best

Technoboy
February 20, 2006, 01:12 PM
All I can say is that I want the new Cybershot W50. It is very nicely priced. Comes out in March. I don't have a problem with Cybershots, though I also like some Casios (more for the design), Canon etc...

zRo ToLeRaNcE
February 20, 2006, 01:33 PM
My friend has a Cybershot DSC-P32 (or something like that). My biggest problem was the zoom. When you increased the size of the image, the zoom capabilities got less and less. At the highest setting, there is not zoom.

Thats understandable since it doesn't have any extended lens but they don't advertise that little problem. You think your getting 2X Optical Zoom it would at least zoom at all the settings.

Bl@ze
February 20, 2006, 06:20 PM
My friend has a Cybershot DSC-P32 (or something like that). My biggest problem was the zoom. When you increased the size of the image, the zoom capabilities got less and less. At the highest setting, there is not zoom.

Thats understandable since it doesn't have any extended lens but they don't advertise that little problem. You think your getting 2X Optical Zoom it would at least zoom at all the settings.


dat sound like is straight digital zoom, not optical

zRo ToLeRaNcE
February 21, 2006, 08:31 AM
dat sound like is straight digital zoom, not optical

The DSC-P32 has a fixed focal length lens so i guess is must be Digital zoom. But why wouldn't it still zoom - digitally - when the resolution was increased then? :icon_conf

amd3200
February 21, 2006, 08:58 AM
The DSC-P32 has a fixed focal length lens so i guess is must be Digital zoom. But why wouldn't it still zoom - digitally - when the resolution was increased then? :icon_conf

because optical and digital are 2 different means to make an image larger,
let me try and explain this as simply as i can....

optical uses precision lenses that mechanically move back and forth. (like binoculaurs and telescopes) The IMAGING SENSOR records the image it sees, which is a TRUE image. (not distorted or cropped)

digital is literally DIGITAL, it uses in-camera processes to either crop the image or clarify it. say for example you take a 7 megapix shot which for some cameras with a 4:3 ratio is 3072x2304, if you copy that image on the computer you can cut a 2megapix image from it... (1600x1200), this is basically what the camera is doing, which they call "digital zoom."(which i think is cheating) the main disadvantage is that the same amount of noise levels (grain)will be there. you sacrifice zoom for clarity (obviously)

My camera has an optical zoom of 3x at 7megapix, but when i turn on digital zoom and lower the resolution to 1megapix i can get 12x zoom. i never use digital :)

it all boils down to how acceptable you want the image to look. if you print your own 4"x6" pictures , camera experts say 3magapix is good enough. but i normally take all pics at 7 megapix so i can crop what i want on the computer...

zRo ToLeRaNcE
February 21, 2006, 03:22 PM
I know the difference between optical and digital zoom. Digital zoom basically uses several algorithms to "guess" what colour to put a certain pixel in as you zoom in.

Now, why is it that if i set it to the highest resolution - lets say 1600x1200, why won't it zoom to a certain part of the image so that i can cut out a 800x600, zoomed portion of the image??

It look like i need to go in search of some Flash animation to show me this process cause i not understanding the text at all.