Video Recording

[Ropy]

What program is the best to capture video from a TV Tuner?? I have TV Tuner from pinnacle and have used pinnacle studios 8, software that come bundled with the tuner and Sonic MyDvd; but everything I have recorded so far is interlace. I have tried everything ranging from changing the resolution to the frame rate.

I recorded as short 5 min video last night at 640x480 and 14.5fps with pinnacle studio 8 via. component cables. After rendering it to AVI and viewing it 100% I can see that it is interlace, but if I view it at 50 it looks good. When I tried rendering it to MPEG the output resolution is too small. Can anyone help???

[MiTcHiE]

i have the same problem but all i want is to know what frame rate to set the recording to. i have a lifeview flyvideo.

i have been searching for a good program myself. i have heard of power vcr but i only tested the trial version, and it takes some setting up. thats the only one i can think of now.

[Ropy]

14.5fps works pretty good for me, anything higher will result in the video being faster than the audio...

How is power vcr so far?

[GodKid]

24/32 fps i believe is the standard.

with regards to capture software.. pinnacle is usually the best bang for buck.. but I can't say I've captured from TV before.. usually from a DV cam.. :(

[deakie]

isnt the ntsc standard 29.97 or 30 frames/sec? thats what your vid should be pumping out. sounds like you are capturing at half the frame rate which means you are either capturing the even or odd fields of the signal. that woul show up as interlaced.
be back to finish this....

[GodKid]

das right deaks.. couldn't remember the frame rate at all.. kept getting the default flash frame rate that i use in my head ;) ;D

so .. yeh.. ropes.. that's why you having troubles

[Ropy]

isnt the ntsc standard 29.97 or 30 frames/sec? thats what your vid should be pumping out. sounds like you are capturing at half the frame rate which means you are either capturing the even or odd fields of the signal. that woul show up as interlaced.
be back to finish this....


If I wasn't blind two days ago I would tell u that the answer is 14.x and 29.97.

[deakie]

so to finish this. ok having brought your vid in at 30 ps, you then examine the product with a good preview to see if its what you can live with.... ;D
this is where good cables come in. screened ones are the best. for tv, they actually use a screened cable for each colour. its the beta standard. blue red and green. + your ground of course.... :D

but since you aint top ending with this, you just need to now convert your file to either mpeg1 for vcd or mpeg2 for svcd or dvd.
there is an alternative, which is divx and you get some serious compression here, enough to fit on a cd but, as always, there is a compromise. it wont play in standard players. only the mpeg will do for that.
the convertor to use is tmpgenc. thats the business. believe. :D

btw, as a footnote, something i learned recently, today in fact. sony ps2 plays dvds as we know but on older machines there is a problem.
there is a jitter. well, dont give up. it seems it just need its drivers updating in order to fuction properly. apparently, you just stick the disc in and it auto updates. once i get more details on this i will post. ;)

hope this helps out. ;D

[MiTcHiE]

i remember trying to record from my tv card and when i played back the video, i noticed that the video was running faster than the sound. i dont remember what frame rate i used but i am gonna go try 15 and 30 and see the results.

wish me luck

[deakie]

the biggest thing you gotta worry about when capturing is your codec. lets assume you got the speed. this speed is influenced by things like DMA, defraging the harddrive and so on.
ok, so you are gonna capture as avi, thenm you do have to do the settings in the capture utility for the specs. def choose the 29.97 or 30.
if your unit can capture using mpeg, then go for that option. your half way to having the file ready for transferring to vcd,svcd or dvd. mpeg1 is for vcd's and mpeg2 for svcd and dvd's.
see my post above about output after you have captured.
:)

[MiTcHiE]

i recorded some video in mpeg format at 30fps and it was fine, voice matched up with video perfectly.
but when i tried it in avi format when i played back the file it was upside down, and that sucks because it was so clean, avi is much cleaner than mpeg.

i cant seem to find any software that can flip the video to the correct position.

[deakie]

did you play it back in media player?
this sometimes occur. ther was a switch in media 6.4 to revert the flip......i'll have a check. but ther is a solution to this. cant remember right now.....

[Ropy]

One more problem...

When I record with pinnacle studios 8, the audio tends to be 1-3secs ahead of the video. I record at 29.97fps and render at 30fps, but the problem is noticeable before I render the video.

N.B. Pinnacle don't record videos either mpeg or avi, u have to do manually.

[deakie]

hmmm.....this is a good one......
1 to 3 seconds is a long time.....ok, tell you what. before we go onto settings.....
with the peice you have captured, use a editor to line up the vid and audio tracks. now look to see if the audio and video are aligned properly. could be that your playback is different.

if you are capturing, try not to echo in a preview. you are robbing system resources from the capture. check for dropped frames. you have to go through all the settings, like audio, vid etc. what standard audio are you capturing at? 48khz or 44.1.....
do you only notice then when capturing or after when your watching? if your machine is running a bit slow, could cause this. serving the vid is more intense than the audio.
realistically, for these jobs, you should have a seperate disc or partition. which should be clean. you cant afford for disc head jumping because of some fragmented file somewhere. ensure DMA is selected for the drive.

N.B. Pinnacle don't record videos either mpeg or avi, u have to do manually what do you mean by this? what does it record the file as then?

btw what is this a pc running xp or an apple machine?

[deakie]

btw....other ppl are suffering the same/similar problem with studio 8.

here are the boards.
http://webboard.pinnaclesys.com/read_threads.asp?WebboardID=1&ForumID=685&SectionI D=143&Start=0&lng=1

seem to be a generic problem for some ppl which isnt being addressed properly by the company. as usual, they have made their money.

[Ropy]

My bad it's avi.

[Maximus]

im using virtualdub to capture from my avermedia tv tuner im using xvid as my video compressor and the sound is compress as mp3 which makes for smaller files but when the recording is done the video playback is upside down any of you guys have experience with virtual dub please tell me what im doing wrong
i could use the aver tv studio but it only records in mpeg 2 and the files are too big so i tried to use virtualdub to capture as avi which is much smaller but my video comes out upsidedown thanks

[MiTcHiE]

I have that same problem but when i use my tv card software. it only occurs when u try to record in avi format, dont know y. if u have divix total pack installed, when u run the file u can use the options of divx to flip the pic. if u do have it installed, whenever u try to watch a movie file, a blue icon appears near the clock, just click it and go into the options, u will figure it out.