MSN Messenger

[Shadow]

What are the general sentiments in response to MSN's messenger and the new options?

[GodKid]

there's at least one string that answers this q ..

do a search on the boards for msn or messenger.. you should come across results that answer your q perfectly ;) cause as per usual I'm too lazy to do the search myself and simply post the link 4 u ;D


blessings

[deakie]

so far, ppl i know are pleased. as the aud/vid thing has become much easier. and when the mess plus is added, they like the sounds and smileys heheh

[Techie88]

majority of the ppl. that i kno use msn mess.. i tink msn messenger offers servies on a diff level. interactivity. also there are many available additions eg. mess plus

[GodKid]

ok.. held back long enough.... ;D


msn messenger 6 and all it's additions is simply an even greater display of M$ plans to rule the world and Gates' brilliance as a mastermind.

None of the tech is ANY of the messenger releases is new, not even new to M$ .. BUT they have always been around inthe less controlled sphere of NetMeeting... integrating mess with netmeeting and slowly phasing out netmeeting not only makes mess look cooler, but it slowly takes awat the freedoms the netmeeting allowed.. the HUGEST one being the fact the u didn't need any other affiliation to M$ other than their OS to use netmeeting to host a conference call... integration into mess and phasing out means now it even HARDER to use netmeeting... and soon you won't be able to .. forcing peeps to resort to the HIGHLY proprietary and monitored, need-a-M$-passport to use MSN Messenger!!

wake up guys.. application sharing and the like have always been a feature of netmeeting... why so carefully implement these BUSINESS technologies into your consumer product.. and then phase out the business line???

simply answer.. one requires a passport, which allows you to track the user's every move, and datamine behind the mask of customer service .. and the other.. well they didn't have any control over netmeeting and who used it.. you were even able to give false details w/out threat of repercussion...

M$ and Billy boy are very smart.. look into these new techs before buying into them whole-heartedly ;) ;D

k.. that's the end of my rant... and I didn't even mention the Mac alternative and how mess is really a mess when compared to it :D...

blessings

[kaotik]

I'm still faithful to Yahoo Messenger ;D

[Techie88]

i use yahoo now and again

[Shadow]

Interesting response Godkid ;) it was the exact response I was looking for in terms of the fact that everyone has been presented with these new options in MSN as an excuse from microsoft that they are competing with other IMS ;D But has anyone seen that M.soft may be tracking and cornering people to their software by means of a little eye candy ???

Take a look into the m.soft past... you may be surprised as to what you see.

::)

[Edge]

Take a look into the m.soft past... you may be surprised as to what you see.
That's one of the reasons why I'm not a Micro$oft fan. I've seen them do the same thing time and time again. I've been watching their antics from the days of CP/M all the way back to their recent forays in the cable and telecom market and it makes me very uneasy that somehow their formula for the market and hence humans seems so successful. Some people give them kudos for being able to do that but I think they parlay a substandard product as much more than that.

[Arch_Angel]

I have nothing against msn messenger. It has gotten better since previous versions (in features), but I am still skeptical about using it. I had always hated how it took control over my computer, starts up whenever it feels like, starts up when windows boots up, won't allow me to close it when I want to close it, etc.

In regards to GK's post, although I figured he would have his say in this (as he already posted his rantings on this already in another post), kudos to Bill Gates for his vision to take over the world. As long as his software does what I want it to do then, then I will use it. I don't use Netmeeting, so I have never used these features that you say have been around for a long time. I first see them appear in msn messenger, so for me they are new features to messenger.

Mostly what sways me to use a particular IM is the number of friends I have using that IM. At the moment most of my friends use Messenger, so that's what i use.

An avid netmeeting user would probably see the new features as not being so new. But for many of those who don't use netmeeting, they are new to us.

I will use Bill's software as long as it does what I want it to do, if not, I'll find some other software that will.

[GodKid]

In regards to GK's post, although I figured he would have his say in this

;D .. am i THAT predictable ;) ;D

but seriously tho... i use messenger for the same reasons... fact is .. telling people there are alternatives is like telling that that there are other OS's... so you tend to have to dabble or give up instant messaging :( >:(

[Arch_Angel]

;D .. am i THAT predictable ;) ;D
Yep. ;)

[Gillion]

I preffer to use Yahoo.
Been using it since they first started beta testing a few years ago... I switched from ICQ after I learnt that my friends lists, was centralised, as opposed to ICQ and having to remembering UINS (I hated that)
Also Yahoo released an IM client for Linux which was just the thing to push me over to the yahooside.
AS for MSN i think it sucks... well the client does... but that could be because of my penguinista indoctrinations :D

AS for clients, considering that I have no time to waste on multiple IM's i preffer to use GAIM. It supports Yahoo, ICQ, Jabber and *sigh* MSN protocols... all my friends who use different messenger services in one place using one client... nice.

I don't really use winsucks windows so I really don't know what special features MSN or Yahoo has that GAIM doesn't have but check the website:


http://gaim.sourceforge.net

--regards
Gillion
P.S.
Luckily for some of you windows weenies GAIM also comes with a "point'n'clik' installer. :D

[matronyx]

ICQ is still my favorite after all these years.
In addition though, to reach those who think ICQ is "hard" ::) to use, I have installed Yahoo, AOL, MSN messenger clients.
GAIM is super in linux, i use that at home when surfing in mandrake. 8)

[GodKid]

what of trillian... for multiple client protocols it's pretty kool.. just that it's under winwoes

[Techie88]

what of trillian... for multiple client protocols it's pretty kool.. just that it's under winwoes

software like trillian are good. it makes the instant messaging pcoess somewhat easier. trillian isnt the only software that integrates various instant messaging clients. i dont rem the names of the other available options

[yogi_hm]

Off hand I can think of gimp which comes both for linux and windows. Also depending on the flavour of linux ur runing I think they have different im's.

[Nastrodamus]

I don't know about you guys... MSN 6 not working too good for me again.

Maybe because I tampered with it.
:-[

ah well

[Techie88]

for some odd reason i keep geting disconnected from my instant messenger periodically, and sumtime sin important conversations. i have no clue why. any suggestions?

[GodKid]

if ur still using 5 it's because u haven't updated to 6... and if ur using 6 it's because 6 still has bugs.. ur choice

[MiTcHiE]

for some odd reason i keep geting disconnected from my instant messenger periodically, and sumtime sin important conversations. i have no clue why. any suggestions?


i might also depend on if u are connecting via lan or modem, or the use of a firewall. when i am at work i dont even bother to sign into instant messagers because the firewall at work is a pain. it takes like a year to sign in, maybe after 3-4 tries and then it signs out after a while.

so describe how u r connecting and if u use a firewall.

[deakie]

i agree with mitchie about the firewall at work.
same experiences here but also at home.
this has happening lately. i reckon its the msn servers.

@techie....i think you are talking about ogido, which is another multi im proggy.

[Techie88]

im usin a 56k modem and not using a firewall. it was happening from msn ver. 5 n now continues in 6. and also happens temp with aol but not as frequent. i get that maybe says dat its not msn its maybe ma comp. or internet connection. the request for sugg. is still out there. thnx 4 da help so far

[Nastrodamus]

im usin a 56k modem and not using a firewall. it was happening from msn ver. 5 n now continues in 6. and also happens temp with aol but not as frequent. i get that maybe says dat its not msn its maybe ma comp. or internet connection. the request for sugg. is still out there. thnx 4 da help so far


It is a high possiblity that it is your connection

[MiTcHiE]

yeah, probably its ur isp.

[Techie88]

thnx 4 da help. wat im going to try n do is use another isp and see if the problem persists. then ill kno if its really my isp.jus 2 be on the safe side im currently wit c&w

[mr.curiousity]

It's really good. One of the features i love the most is the display picture. Which gives me the opportunity to see who i am talking to. In addition to that i love the new look.

[Techie88]

yea, the display picture does add a whole new sense of interactivity.

[GodKid]

i REALLY wish u guys used to use netmeeting.. then you'd have a full view of what's happening...

oh well....

just take this into consideration:

If you have a multiuser machine... have someone iuse their profile and log into hotmail... then log off.. use your profile and o to hotmail now ..

(DO NOT HAVE MESSENGER RUNNING)

if you did it.. you may find something VERY astonishing.. as I and my friend did when he used the M$ developer site after another tech had just finished using the machine, for some reason the user.. who's profile is not logged in still has their hotmail addy pre-added

now i don't know if this was a fluke or just something I hadn't noticed before... BUT it is important to recognize that the Passport and M$ sites are able to OVERRIDE the key separation of PROFILES and still give you something... what does that mean.. they're using technology other than what is stored in the individual's profile (aka cookies) to identify the machine as separate and apart frfom anyone else... and it aint IP logging either!!

so... as I said in another post.. use em/bash em.. just mke sure you know about em!

[deakie]

yep, it keeps the last user login name but not the password.
it does that on most windows login, even in the login where you boot the comp. the last user name will be present but not the password. ;D

[Nastrodamus]

Off hand I can think of gimp which comes both for linux and windows. Also depending on the flavour of linux ur runing I think they have different im's.



How did I miss this... I think you mean GAIM Yogi ;D